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 coldmoonPremium
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| Re: WOW said by Ghirsted :Horseshit.
I grew up in Alabama, where it's par for the course for party hacks (all Democrats) to troll absentee ballots through nursing homes and "vote" in the names of the Alzheimer's patients. It's been public knowledge in that state for decades (although the press won't report on it because it would adversely affect their preferred political party). Arthur Davis, a black Democrat and former member of the US House very courageously talked about it just this year.
»dailycaller.com/2011/11/21/democ···d-video/
Lyndon Johnson stole his first election to Congress, and JFK only got elected thanks to ranks of dead people "voting" in Chicago. But I guess that's not "credible" enough if it adversely affects YOUR preferred political party.
So why were they not prosecuted under existing law? My point is that there is no need for more legislation when effective use of existing laws is sufficient to deal with cases such as those you list.
The problem in your examples is corruption and apathy, not a lack of tools to prosecute that corruption...
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|  | | Re: WOW said by coldmoon:said by Ghirsted :Horseshit.
I grew up in Alabama, where it's par for the course for party hacks (all Democrats) to troll absentee ballots through nursing homes and "vote" in the names of the Alzheimer's patients. It's been public knowledge in that state for decades (although the press won't report on it because it would adversely affect their preferred political party). Arthur Davis, a black Democrat and former member of the US House very courageously talked about it just this year.
»dailycaller.com/2011/11/21/democ···d-video/
Lyndon Johnson stole his first election to Congress, and JFK only got elected thanks to ranks of dead people "voting" in Chicago. But I guess that's not "credible" enough if it adversely affects YOUR preferred political party.
So why were they not prosecuted under existing law? My point is that there is no need for more legislation when effective use of existing laws is sufficient to deal with cases such as those you list. The problem in your examples is corruption and apathy, not a lack of tools to prosecute that corruption... Actually the problem is that prosecuting voter fraud is a losing game for the prosecutors. The penalties aren't very severe (the politicians wrote the laws that way intentionally), and the prosecutors are either on the side of the party that committed the fraud (and so even if they're honest, are under severe pressure not to prosecute) or they're branded by the offending party and its media sycophants as "racist."
I love the idea that Chicago vote fraud would be "prosecuted under existing law." Ever been to Chicago? Or Milwaukee? Guess who's in charge of enforcing those laws?
Right--elected officials whose party benefits from vote fraud. | |
| | coldmoonPremium
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| Re: WOW quote:
... The penalties aren't very severe...
Political fraud and corruption does get prosecuted, why else would there be a special Illinois governor's wing at the Federal Penn...?
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| | | | | Re: WOW said by coldmoon: quote:
... The penalties aren't very severe...
Political fraud and corruption does get prosecuted, why else would there be a special Illinois governor's wing at the Federal Penn...? Political corruption =! vote fraud. Prosecutors can make their careers by busting politicians filling their own pockets. | |
| | | | coldmoonPremium
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| Re: WOW said by Filbbetigibb :said by coldmoon: quote:
... The penalties aren't very severe...
Political fraud and corruption does get prosecuted, why else would there be a special Illinois governor's wing at the Federal Penn...? Political corruption =! vote fraud. Prosecutors can make their careers by busting politicians filling their own pockets. Actually no, they are equivalent and work to degrade the same thing - our democracy and perpetrate fraud; and fraud has been on the books for a very long time...
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| | | | | | | Re: WOW said by coldmoon:Actually no, they are equivalent and work to degrade the same thing - our democracy and perpetrate fraud; and fraud has been on the books for a very long time...
In theory, that's correct. In practice, you're living in a dream world. | |
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| | said by coldmoon:said by Ghirsted :Horseshit.
I grew up in Alabama, where it's par for the course for party hacks (all Democrats) to troll absentee ballots through nursing homes and "vote" in the names of the Alzheimer's patients. It's been public knowledge in that state for decades (although the press won't report on it because it would adversely affect their preferred political party). Arthur Davis, a black Democrat and former member of the US House very courageously talked about it just this year.
»dailycaller.com/2011/11/21/democ···d-video/
Lyndon Johnson stole his first election to Congress, and JFK only got elected thanks to ranks of dead people "voting" in Chicago. But I guess that's not "credible" enough if it adversely affects YOUR preferred political party.
So why were they not prosecuted under existing law? My point is that there is no need for more legislation when effective use of existing laws is sufficient to deal with cases such as those you list. The problem in your examples is corruption and apathy, not a lack of tools to prosecute that corruption... You're avoiding the issue. When it's trivially easy to vote without proving that you're even a citizen, much less registered (and with no consequences), vote fraud is virtually guaranteed.
It's a legal requirement to show ID to buy a gun (a right guaranteed by the Constitution no less than voting) or board an aircraft. Suggesting that it's somehow unconstitutional (much less "racist") for the same minimal requirement to be levied on voters is, as the Supreme Court has already ruled, ridiculous. | |
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| Re: WOW quote:
You're avoiding the issue. When it's trivially easy to vote without proving that you're even a citizen, much less registered (and with no consequences), vote fraud is virtually guaranteed.
And you are as well - please, back up what you are saying with actual statistics with data. All that has been shown is anecdotal and though it made it to media attention, does not provide any information about the entire population or how wide spread the "problem" actually is...
Every time I have moved during the 8 times I have participated in a presidential election as a voter, in two different states, I have had to prove that I was a resident in order to register to vote. This goes back to Uncle Ronny ray-gun and predates any of the current nonsense by a wide margin.
It has been my experience that the voter registration process has been well controlled; which coincidentally is also anecdotal and leaves this debate in the same place without having access to a truly independent study of the subject on a national basis.
So the ball is in your court now as extraordinary charges require extraordinary evidence to prove what you are claiming...
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