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gudly

@nextfone.net

problem with customer wifi

We are a wisp this should probably go else where but I thought I'd check here anyway. One of our customers started having trouble with their wifi. No devices would connect so they bought a new router and programmed it all up and same problem took it back and got a third router same problem. We borrowed one of their routers and brought it to our office all devices connected right up and had no problems.

We are debating between some sort of frequency issue or electrical issue at their house. With wireless devices in their house devices show no connections available. houses have 4 and 5 acre lots in this area so its certainly possible nothing would show up, but we usually see next door neighbors wifi just not strong enough to get a connection.


John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:3

I wouldn't be surprised to find a video transmitter at one of the neighbors houses.

You're going to need to use a spectrum analyzer such as the AirView to see what is happening.


jcremin

join:2009-12-22
Siren, WI
kudos:2

reply to gudly
Could be something inside their own house. Baby monitor, wireless camera, cordless phones, etc. Either get an analyzer, or have them go around and shut off EVERYTHING wireless in the house.


raytaylor

join:2009-07-28
kudos:1

reply to gudly
I would try making it unsecured and see what happens, then step up to WEP, then try WPA.

I find that the free wifi routers that our incumbant issues here, have issues with mac computers, iphones and ipads, and i need to turn the security down to WEP to make them work.



John Galt
Forward, March
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:3

reply to gudly
The OP states that the customer "started having trouble with their wifi"...implying that the system -was- working, but now has mysteriously stopped working.

Perhaps he could clarify as to whether or not that is the case...



gudly

@nextfone.net

Yes the wifi was working and then stopped. Our laptops and phones would not see a connection while at their house. We brought the router to our office plugged it in and all our laptops and phones connected right up. (the same devices we brought over to their house for trouble shooting)

We also tested at the opposite end of their house 3500 sq ft single story house to test for local interferance. and the same problem. What ever is going on is in their house. None of the neighbors (also our customer are having this issue)

We are wondering if it might be a power issue, do these devices shut off the wifi if the power is too low.

At this point we're shooting in the dark.


pacmanfan
Premium
join:2003-11-22
Mansfield, MO

reply to gudly
A directional Ubiquiti M2 device running AirView is awesome for locating interference. A Loco M2 should work well.



viperm
Carpe Diem
Premium
join:2002-07-09
Winchester, CA

reply to gudly
We had this situation in one room of a customer of ours. He had a bunch of wireless SPEAKERS!!!! hooked up and could not figure out why he got no signal in that room.. Turned them off and problem was solved..

There was another post where a customer had a wireless backup camera in thier car that was set to be on ALL the time causing issues..

My bet is something was added recently. Just ask them any cameras, wireless speakers, baby monitors etc. Do they have teenagers? maybe they added something without the parents knowing.

Could be hidden wireless cameras the government is using to watch them? hahaha
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raytaylor

join:2009-07-28
kudos:1

reply to gudly
Another idea I find,

If you buy an Access point in New Zealand, we have 13 channels avaliable. But most laptops sold here have USA radios in them that only have the 12 channels.

So if an AP is set to auto channel, and decides to use channel 13, it goes offline for 99% of all laptops that would try to connect to it.

Probably not happening with your customer, but a possibility something similar is happening.



gudly

@nextfone.net

Went back over today to run airview on a ubiquiti and found a broken Hawking extender to be the source of interference. Unplugged the Hawking and everything started working again


maxit

join:2009-02-22
Fort St James, BC

reply to gudly
Hydro Smart-meters! Tons of people getting randomly disconnected from their home routers since they installed those around here.
Also had a guy with direct line of sight to our AP, worked great for 5 years. Installed smart meter (same side of house as CPE) and the AP on CH1 just completely disappeared! Gone!
Lucky for him we had a 2nd one on Ch11 we could switch him to.



the mammal

@teksavvy.com

that seems like BS as the BCHydro smart meters operate on GPRS/EDGE or 1xRTT mobile phone data frequencies. You can look at the RF specs for the units on ITron's website (the manufacturer).



DaDawgs
Premium
join:2010-08-02
Deltaville, VA

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reply to gudly

said by gudly :

One of our customers started having trouble with their wifi. No devices would connect so they bought a new router and programmed it all up and same problem took it back and got a third router same problem.

And you STILL believe the problem is in your system?

Look, if it is not solved by changing out everything you can control, then it is probably NOT something you can control.

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Once we IPv6 enable every device on the Internet we will have toasters, baby monitors, and security cameras joining the bot nets which today are populated only by idiots that can not refrain from clicking, "Yes I would like to see those titties..."

maxit

join:2009-02-22
Fort St James, BC

reply to the mammal

said by the mammal :

that seems like BS as the BCHydro smart meters operate on GPRS/EDGE or 1xRTT mobile phone data frequencies. You can look at the RF specs for the units on ITron's website (the manufacturer).

I'm well aware that because two things happen at the same time they may not be related. Funny thing is, if you set the mentioned CPE to 10Mhz, CH1 reappears along with several home Ch1 routers several kms away. Can't connect to any, as all are 20 or 20/40.

Perhaps you have another explanation for the number of people suddenly complaining of random disconnects from their home 2.4 routers? 90% are in town Telus DSL users claiming the disconnect began around the same time as the meter switch.

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