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Duramax08
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reply to Kilroy

Re: Selling custom built PC's, your thoughts.

I would only support the computer ie hardware. Is your computer working fine? Ok then. You got tons of viruses? Ill help you out a bit but thats about it. If you got software problem go to that vendor for assistance. If your computer takes a crap within the year, bring it on in, it gots warranty for that part.

AsherN

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reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

Today I was thinking "hmmm, wonder if I can build PC's for little profit". Went to newegg, put together a budget computer and thought "I could probably get a extra $80 after its done!". Has a i3, 4gb ram, 160 gb hdd with vga, dvi and hdmi onboard via intel graphics 2000. Thinking of a price range about $500, give or take a little. I would put a ad in the community newspaper and maybe start a website. Was looking into »www.volusion.com but I have some thoughts before I get into this.

Does that $500 include Windows?

$80 means you're working for about $40/hr for the build. A lot less when the support calls start coming.

I do support on the side. I'm often asked about building new machines. What it comes down to is that unless someone wants a specialized rig, you just can't beat a pre-built like Dell.


workablob

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reply to battleop

said by battleop:

"I work IT all day at work"

You must be rather new to IT. Eventually you will want to leave work at work.

Only if you picked the wrong field.

I've been doing it for 15 years now and I still love it.

I spend a lot of time on PCs and servers at home too.

Dave


battleop

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I guess what I am referring to is leaving the customers at work. I spend 2-3 hours every night working on something from home and enjoy it but I won't deal with end users.

My tolerance for stupid has gone to zero. I eventually got to a point where I was tired of dealing with people who could not find the start button or they scream at you for not calling them back because I didn't reply to their email about their email not working.

I still have some tolerance for someone who is not computer savvy but they are willing to listen. If don't have time for someone who won't listen or they are a know it all.



dvd536
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reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

Today I was thinking "hmmm, wonder if I can build PC's for little profit". Went to newegg, put together a budget computer and thought "I could probably get a extra $80 after its done!". Has a i3, 4gb ram, 160 gb hdd with vga, dvi and hdmi onboard via intel graphics 2000. Thinking of a price range about $500, give or take a little. I would put a ad in the community newspaper and maybe start a website. Was looking into »www.volusion.com but I have some thoughts before I get into this.

So the plan is buy the parts, build it, install win 7 home OEM and do updates. Sounds easy right? Install some programs like java and flash and call it good. But what about anti virus? Can I install something free like microsoft essential or avast? Not sure if theres legal hurdles for installing free software that Im selling for profit. Worst case scenario I dont install anything else, letting the user do so.

I would like to get some of your thoughts/ideas. I never started a "small business" so I know theres much more involved like taxes, etc.

Thanks!

The only people you'd nab are the ones that are too lazy to goto wal*mart and buy a system with the same low end specs for $399.[even the lowest low end walmart box has larger hdd than 160gb]

The freebies best left on a CD due to license reqs.
unless you offer other services, the dells and HPs will undercut you on price alone.

I used to do this and made pretty good coin but now pretty much any 5 year old kid can build a box, the competition is fierce.

set yourself apart from the crowd by offering extra services[but not too cheap]
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Duramax08
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doing revises on all the builds to make it more appealing.



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If you really want to spend your free time building and selling PCs against the likes of Dell, you're better off just getting a part time job at one of those discount electronics stores that hobbles together systems from last-generation parts. You'll get paid better, too.
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Duramax08
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said by AsherN:

said by Duramax08:

Today I was thinking "hmmm, wonder if I can build PC's for little profit". Went to newegg, put together a budget computer and thought "I could probably get a extra $80 after its done!". Has a i3, 4gb ram, 160 gb hdd with vga, dvi and hdmi onboard via intel graphics 2000. Thinking of a price range about $500, give or take a little. I would put a ad in the community newspaper and maybe start a website. Was looking into »www.volusion.com but I have some thoughts before I get into this.

Does that $500 include Windows?

$80 means you're working for about $40/hr for the build. A lot less when the support calls start coming.

I do support on the side. I'm often asked about building new machines. What it comes down to is that unless someone wants a specialized rig, you just can't beat a pre-built like Dell.

From my previous post

"One of my pitches would be "its easier to upgrade". Alot of those dells come with the bare minimum PSU. Mine has a 530W PSU. Another is look at it, its another dell. My budget pc has a rosewill blackbone with "lights and fans" people might like. My motherboard has 1 PCI E 2.0 x16, 1 PCI E and one PCI slot. I can always say theres more room to upgrade. I can also put a freebie like if they want to install a new video card or so, you have up to a year email tech support to look for something that would fit in your rig and no cost for installation if you do so within a year. After that I can charge them a low fee. They buy the card, I install it. Dell doesnt do those kind of things.

Also I would start out locally which alot of people rather buy something assembled locally then in some foreign country. Its things like that I hope people like/enjoy. Thanks for the thought, its something to keep in mind."

and yes it comes with 7 home x64.


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I still have an article about some guy in Texas that was doing this during college from his apartment many years ago. They tried to piece together how he managed to sell his computers so cheap by pricing individual components. Last I heard, Michael Dell was doing OK.

So give it a shot. Some people like to buy local from someone they know they can get their hands around their neck if they have issues. If it doesn't work out, you won't lose a lot of money. You'll learn a ton about business in the process and maybe find some better way.



Kilroy
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reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

I would only support the computer ie hardware. Is your computer working fine?

Wrong question. The problem answer will be that it is running slow, one of my favorite problems to deal with. BSODs would be the next one. BSODs are never anyone's fault, especially when you try and track down the guilty party.

I'm not trying to say it is a bad idea, just you might want to think about dealing with the non-computer expert public. I've been doing IT for over a decade and love it, but from the people I've had to support with known loads and applications, I wouldn't want to think about supporting the general public who has full administrative rights to their machine.

I think freeze See Profile has the idea. If you decide to do this, do it as a hobby. If it turns into a profit maker great, if not, it was just a hobby.
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This is not a good idea. Look at it from the average buyer's perspective (someone with little tech knowledge). He just wants to buy a name brand computer from a well established and reputable store. Perhaps he may even search online to find good deals. The computer is an appliance to him. Why would he buy from an unknown source, if he could even be made aware of your site? On the other hand, why would a tech savy person buy from you, when he can build his own rig or at least know where to get a better deal from someone he knows will be in business in the future?
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Duramax08
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reply to Kilroy

said by Kilroy:

I think freeze See Profile has the idea. If you decide to do this, do it as a hobby. If it turns into a profit maker great, if not, it was just a hobby.

This.


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Dura - as much as i hate to discourage your entrepreneurial spirit, you are about 15 years too late. back in the mid to late 90's it paid to build your own vs. buy whatever HP Compaq Dell or Gateway was selling - now all those companies wish they could drop their PC divisions, and do what IBM did - get into pure consulting work.

Online savvy buyers reading maximumpc and tomshardware already build their own, non-savvy buy whatever their local office or electronics stores sell, and business people only buy business supported products from HP and Dell. As others have posted, if you have one pain in the ass buyer out of five, your profits are shot to hell.

I actually know a guy who even today builds clones and sells them, but that's in another country where tax and import laws favor parts over finished goods. So unless you plan on moving to Lebanon, I suggest you explore another Ecommerce options.

One last issue - the desktop PC is dying... replaced by tablets smartphones netbooks, whatever you wanna call them. Once a google based retina display tablet comes out, even I'll be retiring my 5 year old HP/Compaq desktop PC and enjoy seeing my data live up in the clouds.



howardfine

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reply to ROCINANTE
And yet there are five custom PC shops within five miles of my home.

Dealing with the general public can be aggravating but you get used to it. His customers are more likely to live nearby and are willing to bring their PCs to his shop if it can't be solved on the phone.

Don't compare the little shop on the corner to Dell/Gateway/etc. I buy my meat from a little butcher shop down the street and not from the big name grocery stores. I get better service at a cheaper price and a better product. He can do the same.



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I guarantee you those "custom pc shops"
make most of their money on data recovery and
cleaning virus/trojans off people's hard drives,
doing modest upgrades that non techies can't
like adding harddrive space, ram, and video cards,
and they are probably in very low rent space.
the only reason they even put a "custom pc"
on display, is to exude their technical prowess,
not to actually sell any of them.



howardfine

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said by Packeteers:

I guarantee you those "custom pc shops"
make most of their money on ...

That's OK. If he doesn't mind doing that, he's making money. The whole point of any business. Nothing wrong with that.


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reply to Duramax08
You will become your clients own personal helpdesk.

"I can't get to [insert website]? Why not?"
"My computer keeps trying to go into Safe Mode. What's that?"
"How do I burn a CD?"
"I can't play music on my computer. I swear I didn't do anything. What's happened?"
"I accidentally deleted a file. Can you get it back for me?"
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howardfine

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said by Drex:

You will become your clients own personal helpdesk.

That's OK. If he doesn't mind doing that, he's making money. The whole point of any business. Nothing wrong with that.


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said by howardfine:

And yet there are five custom PC shops within five miles of my home.

The key is that they have a brick and mortar shop and that they do not sell online only.
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dennismurphy
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said by Packeteers:

Dura - as much as i hate to discourage your entrepreneurial spirit, you are about 15 years too late.

You read my mind. Even 15 years ago was almost too late.
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