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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
 ·SONIC.NET
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to sonicmerlin
Re: Bizarre said by sonicmerlin:Again I have to wonder why management doesn't enable off-peak unlimited hours, the same way congested satellite providers do? Is it really necessary to throttle someone at 3 AM?
Yes, it is really necessary to throttle *some* users ALL of the time.
Even at 3 AM.
You probably don't wish to recall the truth that was revealed during the VMUSA "unlimited" fiasco - but as I was telling y'all it would end badly and quickly, we had forum activists proudly boasting 400GB worth of downloads before being cut off - temporarily. Without some marginal cost for consumption, waste and abuse will soon follow.
I agree that Cellco should do something less punitive than bucket-based throttling at 2.5GB. Whether they are technically proficient enough to do so, and whether they can implement a policy that is both dynamic, consistent, and comprehensible by the consumer, that doesn't violate applicable NN nonsense, is anyone's guess. | |
| I don't think you understand how networks actually work. Off-peak hours at night are completely uncongested. Whether a person downloads 40 GB, 400 GB, or 4 TB doesn't matter, as long as it's occurring at night when no one else is using the network. Granny watching a youtube video at 8 PM is causing far more congestion than a torrent user at 1 AM.
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Without some marginal cost for consumption, waste and abuse will soon follow.
Only a die-hard neo conservative, white baby-boomer Republican would say this. Bandwidth has no marginal consumption cost. It's there all the time, and any unused bandwidth is wasted potential. This is why even incredibly congested satellite providers offer unlimited use at night.
Someday the worst generation in American history will grow old and disappear. Hopefully it happens sooner rather than later. | |
elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by sonicmerlin:I don't think you understand how networks actually work. Off-peak hours at night are completely uncongested. Whether a person downloads 40 GB, 400 GB, or 4 TB doesn't matter, as long as it's occurring at night when no one else is using the network. Granny watching a youtube video at 8 PM is causing far more congestion than a torrent user at 1 AM.
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Without some marginal cost for consumption, waste and abuse will soon follow.
Only a die-hard neo conservative, white baby-boomer Republican would say this. Bandwidth has no marginal consumption cost. It's there all the time, and any unused bandwidth is wasted potential. This is why even incredibly congested satellite providers offer unlimited use at night. Someday the worst generation in American history will grow old and disappear. Hopefully it happens sooner rather than later. As usual, you resort to name-calling. So much for civility.
I am neither a neo-conservative, white, baby-boomer or Republican.
Care to add any more racist, ageist and classist, closed-mind assumptions?
Torrents are very efficient at gobbling up every available ounce of bandwidth - and while they can be tailored to play better with others, they typically aren't, and the result is an unusable network for everyone else. Even at 3 AM.
In order to allow Granny or other insomniacs the use of their connection at 3AM, some protocol or pricing needs to be in place to assure that the data hogs do not bring the network to its knees, just "because they can". | |
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