| [General] Skype-to-Skype, Nettalk-to-Nettalk, GV-to-GV Voip providers with dedicated ATAs advertize free communications between subscribers within their networks. Does that really apply to one subscriber with an ATA dialing the phone no. of another subscriber with an ATA? Or does the free communication apply only to PC-based software phones calling another PC-based software phone?
TimDan |
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 brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | Can't answer for all providers, but as an example: 2 users of Callcentric can dial each other for free with each using an ATA. I do it all the time... |
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PX EliezerPremium
join:2008-08-09
Hutt River
kudos:12 Reviews:
 ·voip.ms
·callwithus
·Callcentric
·Vitelity VOIP
·Optimum Voice
·Gizmo5
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Your question about [GV to GV] is a moot point because GV calls are free anyway.
The same applies to [Nettalk] for that matter.
As for [Skype], that's not clear, and may depend on the exact plan you have. As a practical matter, there's really not a lot of talk about Skype in this forum because the company pursues an isolationist policy.
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Among some of the real VoIP companies:
Voip.MS provides free calls between its DID's in North America, I believe, and of course you can also call between accounts by Sipbroker, iNum, or SIP URI calling.
CallCentric assigns each account a 1777xxxxxxx number, and calls between such numbers are free. You can also call for free between accounts by Sipbroker, iNum, or SIP URI calling, and by CallCentric DID's.
CallWithUs customers can call each other for free with their 9-digit user names (not to be confused with the 10-digit account number), and of course you could call by SIP URI.
Some other VoIP providers have similar provisions. |
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gweidenh
join:2002-05-18
Houston, TX
kudos:1 | reply to TimDan
Using PSTN numbers to call users in the same network will not cause the call to actually route to the PSTN, it will stay on their internal network... therefore no charges should apply.
If by chance, you find a VoIP provider that does bill you for such a call, run away, and run away fast. |
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| reply to TimDan
As far as NetTALK ic concerned, all DUO-to-DUO calls are free. Give a DUO to a friend or family member and talk for free, no matter where you both are in the world.  |
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| reply to TimDan
yes of course voip provide best function free calling and i really like skype and i always login skype id our iphone and content all friends nice job keep it up |
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OK, guys, thanks for clarifying that for me. I couldn't find anything on the Web that indicated that VoIP providers recognized their own DIDs when a customer called out to one of them. It appears then that the VoIP provider just routes the call directly to the other customer and bypasses the PSTN system.
TimDan |
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| reply to PX Eliezer
said by PX Eliezer:CallCentric assigns each account a 1777xxxxxxx number, and calls between such numbers are free. You can also call for free between accounts by Sipbroker, iNum, or SIP URI calling, and by CallCentric DID's.
I have an elderly friend in China who is somewhat infirm. He can't deal with anything more complex than a regular phone. He DOES have a decent Internet connection. Does this mean that if I buy him an ATA and program it with CallCentric, that we can call each other using the 1777 number for free? If so, is this a good solution? If not, what would be a good solution? |
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brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | said by lstevens:said by PX Eliezer:CallCentric assigns each account a 1777xxxxxxx number, and calls between such numbers are free. You can also call for free between accounts by Sipbroker, iNum, or SIP URI calling, and by CallCentric DID's.
I have an elderly friend in China who is somewhat infirm. He can't deal with anything more complex than a regular phone. He DOES have a decent Internet connection. Does this mean that if I buy him an ATA and program it with CallCentric, that we can call each other using the 1777 number for free? If so, is this a good solution? If not, what would be a good solution? You are correct, and I do exactly this.
I have CallCentric, and a friend has CallCentric. Each of us have an ATA that registers directly to CC. Either of us can pick up that phone connected to that ATA and dial the other's "1777" number just like a normal 1+USA number.
Of note, each of us has now ported a DID to Callcentric. We can also dial each other's traditional DID (hers is 1+815; mine is 1+773) and reach the other party without charge. |
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| Thanks! I just want to keep it cheap and simple. Any advantage to going the DID route? Or should I just stick with the 1777 dialing? |
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Dan_voip
join:2007-01-03
Saint-Hubert, QC
kudos:3 Reviews:
 ·TekSavvy DSL
| said by lstevens:Thanks! I just want to keep it cheap and simple. Any advantage to going the DID route? Or should I just stick with the 1777 dialing?
No need to go on DID route, in the given situation you don't get anything more. |
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brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | said by Dan_voip:said by lstevens:Thanks! I just want to keep it cheap and simple. Any advantage to going the DID route? Or should I just stick with the 1777 dialing?
No need to go on DID route, in the given situation you don't get anything more. Agreed. With two free CC accounts you and friend can call each other on the 1777 numbers all you wish. Also, I don't =think= you'd need any dialplan tweaks in your ATAs. If they are registered directly to CC, CC will see and route the 1777 numbers... |
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| reply to TimDan
This is great information. Can someone give fail safe (as close as one can be) settings. Being that it is being sent a distance, getting it right the first time is important. |
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brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | said by mrdally204:This is great information. Can someone give fail safe (as close as one can be) settings. Being that it is being sent a distance, getting it right the first time is important.
Totally depends on the VoIP carrier and the ATA.
If, for example, you choose to use Callcentric, explore their website. They have very comprehensive "set-up/how-to" instructions for just about any ATA. Pictures, even! |
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| reply to brg
On a related note: Any way for a VOIPo Phone to call a Callcentric 1777 number? |
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brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | said by lstevens:On a related note: Any way for a VOIPo Phone to call a Callcentric 1777 number?
Not as a "1777XXXXXXX" (only) number that I am aware of, no. Others may know more about this...
Can VOIPo call a SIP-URI? If so it could call the Callcentric number in the form "1777XXXYYY@in.callcentric.com" from a SIP-URI-capable softphone. (Hard to do SIP-URI from analog phones hooked up to ATAs, although there may be some dialplan or speeddial trickery that could work...) |
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| said by brg:said by lstevens:On a related note: Any way for a VOIPo Phone to call a Callcentric 1777 number?
Not as a "1777XXXXXXX" (only) number that I am aware of, no. Others may know more about this... Can VOIPo call a SIP-URI? If so it could call the Callcentric number in the form "1777XXXYYY@in.callcentric.com" from a SIP-URI-capable softphone. (Hard to do SIP-URI from analog phones hooked up to ATAs, although there may be some dialplan or speeddial trickery that could work...) Works great VOIPO via SIP URI! Thanks! Anyone know if there is a way to call a SIP URI with a regular phone, a VOIPO ATA and/or VPANEL? |
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| reply to brg
said by brg :Totally depends on the VoIP carrier and the ATA.
If, for example, you choose to use Callcentric, explore their website. They have very comprehensive "set-up/how-to" instructions for just about any ATA. Pictures, even!
Planning on spa2102s on both ends calling with Callcentric. 1 United States, the other Philippians. Will there be any special changes needed due to international(better ports to use, ect). |
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Dan_voip
join:2007-01-03
Saint-Hubert, QC
kudos:3 Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
| reply to mrdally204
said by mrdally204:This is great information. Can someone give fail safe (as close as one can be) settings. Being that it is being sent a distance, getting it right the first time is important.
Don't set up a fixed IP address, leave it on DHCP. If you have an ATA on which you can setup 2 providers take 2 pairs of free accounts with 2 different providers, if 1 will have problems you can use the other one. Do some tests with 1 ATA in a friend's house. |
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Dan_voip
join:2007-01-03
Saint-Hubert, QC
kudos:3 Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
| reply to mrdally204
said by mrdally204:Planning on spa2102s on both ends calling with Callcentric. 1 United States, the other Philippians. Will there be any special changes needed due to international(better ports to use, ect).
Any particular reason for SPA2102? If you don't have yet the adapters, Obi 100 or 110 will give you more options and those are new devices with the last firmware deployed in 2012. |
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