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Family statement on Paterno's passing:

»www.philly.com/philly/news/20120···ath.html

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Rot In Hell, scumbag.
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RIP, Joe Pa

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RIP Joe.

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RIP Joe. Thank you for everything! You will be missed.
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I talked to an NFL official on the golf course a few weeks ago who used to work college games. He said Paterno and the guys at Penn State were the biggests jerks in all of football. He said none of the refs could stand working a Penn State game. Is a guy like that now supposed to pretend he liked Paterno?

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Myself, I've never heard of the man prior to this, so I've got no pre-conceived god opinion of him like many do. But during this whole child abuse scandal, it's been discussed how huge college football is as a business, so it isn't surprising that they tried to cover this up.

All people involved who knew, including Paterno, are to blame because all they did was pass the buck and never went to real authorities, aka the Police.

They tried to cover this up, and who knows what else they might have covered up over the years, to keep the wheels turning.
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Let's be clear, I'm not a Penn State fan. I'm a Hokie, but from what I've heard and read he gave a lot back to the community.
»www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-foo···e00.html

"Joe Paterno simply is an unusual football coach...and, an unusual person.
In an exceptional display of generosity and affection for Penn State, Paterno; his wife, Sue, and their five children announced a contribution of $3.5 million to the University in 1998, bringing Paterno's lifetime giving total to more than $4 million. The gift was believed to be, Penn State Vice President for Development Rod Kirsch said, "the most generous ever made by a collegiate coach and his family to a university."

The Paterno gift endows faculty positions and scholarships in the College of the Liberal Arts, the School of Architecture and Landscape Architecture, the University Libraries and supported two building projects -- a new interfaith spiritual center and the Penn State All-Sports Museum, both on the University Park campus. The museum opened in 2002 and the spiritual center was dedicated in 2003.

"Penn State has been very good to both Sue and me," Paterno said. "We have met some wonderful people here, we've known many students who have gone on to become outstanding leaders in their professions and in society, and all of our children have received a first-class education here. I've never felt better about Penn State and its future potential than I do right now. Sue and I want to do all we can to help the University reach that potential."

He and Sue have been actively involved with the Special Olympics Pennsylvania Summer Games, held each June on the University Park campus. In 2008, the Paternos were inducted into the Special Olympics Pennsylvania Hall of Fame.

The Paternos announced a $1 million pledge in 2009 for the Mount Nittany Medical Center. Their gift is part of the most ambitious fundraising effort in the Medical Center's history and helped support a three-floor, 42,000-square foot expansion of Centre County's primary health facility, which was completed in 2010."
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People are not cartoon villians, and they're not cartoon heroes. They're human beings. Human beings tend to be multi-faceted.

Mobsters sometimes give money to churches and other community and charitable services, too. Yet they remain mobsters who do most of their business outside the law and sometimes kill people when it suits their own ends.
Giving money to the community doesn't make them no longer mobsters who murder.

Joe Paterno did little to stop or turn in a child predator who was a close associate of his. Paterno admitted his regret about this, but Paterno's regret doesn't change the facts of what happened.
Giving money to schools or medical centers does not absolve Paterno of all transgressions in life-- nor to my knowledge did Paterno himself ever suggest or believe that it should.

I don't believe anyone has accused Paterno of being an evil or malevolent being. On the other hand, his mistakes remain his mistakes, his trangressions remain his transgressions. They don't magically go away because he also did things of a philanthropic nature which benefited the community.

In other words-- He gets no pass from me (nor do I believe he should from anyone else) on his inaction and culpability in the Sandusky affair because he put money back into the community.

Well said, AB . I agree completely.
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Joseph Vincent Paterno
December 21, 1926 – January 22, 2012