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Re: New Car Even didn't know Ford making AWD option on Fusion, but not changing my mind. |
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sailorPremium
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What kind of mileage you getting from the SHO? |
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sk1939
join:2010-10-23
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said by itguy05:Except the new Taurus leads the pack - it is the highest rated large sedan in initial quality.
That's such a meaningless statistic. Of course initial quality should be good, it's new. If fit and finish isn't half decent your either driving a Yugo or a Dodge. |
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sk1939
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I knew it was on the Taurus/Five Hundred but I didn't know it was on the Fusion.
The drawback is that I would also have to get the V6, indulging my lead footed tendencies, which why I need a new car in the first place.
I test drove the Subaru and Juke today (they were near each other). I like the feel of the Subaru, but I equally like the sporty/quirkiness of the Juke. I also like the Juke's size, but I don't care for it's impracticality as far as storage space goes, and the red plastic trim. |
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matt5
join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY | reply to sk1939
What was the reason for AWD again, seeing as FWD works pretty much fine (+ better mpg normally)? |
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said by sailor:What kind of mileage you getting from the SHO? Highway around 25. In my mixed daily commute it's like 19-22. But that involves a lot of stop and go traffic and a little highway. And I "enjoy the power" at times. IIRC it's pretty crack in the middle of the EPA #'s for the car and I run regular through it (it doesn't require premium) so it's not that bad.
Not the best and not the worst but great for a large car that can blow the doors off most cars out there.  |
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said by sk1939:said by itguy05:Except the new Taurus leads the pack - it is the highest rated large sedan in initial quality.
That's such a meaningless statistic. Of course initial quality should be good, it's new. If fit and finish isn't half decent your either driving a Yugo or a Dodge. Not necessarily. There are many cars/trucks that are poor at initial quality.
Look at the stats some times and I think you will be surprised. I know I was, especially with premium brands like Mini, Jag, VW, etc placing in the lower end of the scales... |
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sk1939
join:2010-10-23
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kudos:6 | True.
Actually none of those surprise me, since all of those brands also have long term reliability issues. |
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sk1939
join:2010-10-23
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kudos:6 | reply to matt5
For incliment conditions and better traction. |
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said by dennismurphy:Wish I had seen this before you went to the Ford dealer.
The Fusion is an excellent car. I thoroughly enjoyed mine when I had it (now I have a Ford Escape.)
Ignore the guy who was talking trash; he obviously has an axe to grind. Ford's reliability has gone way up in the last few years - it's really a new day.
How do you like the Escape? I am thinking about getting one.
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matt5
join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY | reply to sk1939
said by sk1939:For incliment conditions and better traction.
Being in NY, FWD + snow tires... I'd not worry.
The last snow storm when we got whacked in the NE in October, I had no issues in a little FWD with snows...
I can't tell ya how many times while still out plowing, roads still covered in snow little hondas and stuff are putting around no problem (again snows with out snows your done).
I would not limit hard to awd just for better traction... ALL it does is make you start off... it really does nothing to slow you down, steer, etc and let's be honest... the bigger issue is stopping / turning while going down the road... not so much moving forward.
So really if you can't get going with FWD and snow tires... might be a good idea to just not go in general.
»www.wimp.com/drivecarefully/
It gets good lol... |
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sk1939
join:2010-10-23
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| I've seen that video. Unfortunately not going out is not an option. I had plenty of issues in my Civic, the car was too light for good traction on ice, and the all weather tires left something to be desired. I have neither the time nor tools to change my tires several times a year.
I pulled hard for AWD because it does give you better power on slipper surfaces that I can correct from. I'm not worried about snow (snow I can handle) it's the ice and ice storms that I'm worried about. |
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The Escape has been rock-solid for me. I'm on my second one. I had a 2010 and now have a 2012.
It's been great for me. Haven't had one lick of trouble with either one. Nor has my brother-in-law with his 2008. Or my mom with her 2006.
4 vehicles does not a statistic make, but it's been a good vehicle for is!
One word of advice: GET SYNC!! You can't add it later and you WILL miss it! |
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| Ill 2nd that! My 09 escape has Sync and it is annoying as hell when I get in my corp. vehicle that doesn't have it
I love having my music or audiobook, or phone call just pop into the vehicles sound system when I start the car with out any external intervention from me. |
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said by sk1939:I've seen that video. Unfortunately not going out is not an option. I had plenty of issues in my Civic, the car was too light for good traction on ice, and the all weather tires left something to be desired. I have neither the time nor tools to change my tires several times a year.
I pulled hard for AWD because it does give you better power on slipper surfaces that I can correct from. I'm not worried about snow (snow I can handle) it's the ice and ice storms that I'm worried about.
My corolla drives pretty good in the snow and unplowed roads with all weather tiers. FWD gives very good traction.
I drove through over 1 foot of unplowed parking lot before.
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matt5
join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY | reply to sk1939
awd does not give you more traction on ice, awd does nothing but gets you going forward better...
If you think awd will = traction on ice you will be sadly mistaken. TIRES give you the traction.
Again from plowing, 3wd (locked rear,) but all season tires... ah.... 3inch - 4 inches of snow one driveway how bad could it be right? After all its a 8500lb 3wd plow truck...
Got news for ya, NEVER EVER would try that again with the all seasons. Same truck that plows around 100 driveways per storm with goodyear snow tires... almost came back and put on snow tires JUST to do that ONE drive... with 3-4 inches...
You want awd fine, but if you had AWD and a set of 4 snows and FWD and the same snows, your gona have about the same luck moving around on ice.
Stopping, turning, will be the SAME as fwd, going forward / backwards will be a little easier with AWD.
If not going out is not an option get either studded snows if they are legal or chains. Again I could NEVER plow with out studs, I even drove around stuck 4wds (07 f350 snow tires no studs) plowed uphill from where he got stuck, and pulled it out uphill (studs again vs no studs).
So 80's chevy, 3wd, straight blade plow, studded snows
vs 07 f350 diesel, 3wd, vplow, plain snows.
World of a difference all in the *tires* not the drive train.
That's my advice, worry more about tires and less about AWD. It won't help you turn or stop... it will only help get you in trouble. Even if you get AWD, nothing makes up for good tires and studs are the best thing ever... Also if they are not legal, you have insta studs, aka, very short screws for anytime you get in trouble. |
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sk1939
join:2010-10-23
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1 edit | I know people who like their Corolla's but I personally won't consider one for a variety of reasons.
I understand that it doesn't do anything other than help you go forward.
The problem is that I'm only in snow for a handful of time; it doesn't snow in SF, and it's pretty dry in DC. The other reason I want AWD is so I don't keep getting stuck in the mud in Napa and Tahoe. |
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demirPremium
join:2010-07-15
usa | reply to sk1939
If you need to drive uphill on a significant grade in the snow regularly . . .you need AWD.
If you don't need to do the above, FWD is fine. |
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sk1939
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| Drive Settings - Power Settings The Juke has 3 Drive settings: FWD (for normal driving), Symmetrical Full-Time AWD (for slippery surfaces) and Torque Vectoring AWD (for blasting around the corners).
I keep mine on the Torque Vectoring AWD except in heavy rain or snow when I use Full-Time AWD.
There are also 3 Power settings: Eco, Normal and Sport. Eco feels like a 2 cylinder engine (perfect if you are in heavy traffic or if you are 80 years old), Normal feels like you have more torque and Sport is sportier with different shift points and livelier steering feel.
I prefer the Sport setting. It's like a baby GT-R.  |
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