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Mr Matt

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Shove the Sony Betamax decision up Government's ass.

The Supreme Court already decided this matter. If a device has both infringing uses and non infringing uses then there is no reason to prohibit offering it. MegaUpLoad meets these standards with the primary use non infringing.

The Universal Music Group sent government thugs as a result of the lawsuit regarding the Universal Music Groups taking down the promotional video: MegaUpload with all the A-List stars. A trial run for SOPA and PIPA if our corrupt lawmakers can weasel the sons of these laws through.


cdru
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said by Mr Matt:

The Supreme Court already decided this matter. If a device has both infringing uses and non infringing uses then there is no reason to prohibit offering it. MegaUpLoad meets these standards with the primary use non infringing.

I don't think the question is if MegaUpload has non-infringing uses. It does and that's easily proven. It was taken down and people arrested because of it's use for (alleged) extensive copyright infringement and subsequent money laundering and racketeering.


iknow

@optonline.net

said by cdru:

said by Mr Matt:

The Supreme Court already decided this matter. If a device has both infringing uses and non infringing uses then there is no reason to prohibit offering it. MegaUpLoad meets these standards with the primary use non infringing.

I don't think the question is if MegaUpload has non-infringing uses. It does and that's easily proven. It was taken down and people arrested because of it's use for (alleged) extensive copyright infringement and subsequent money laundering and racketeering.

Now that's absurd. You CAN'T have a filehosting site with MILLIONS of files and expect that NONE of them are infringing!. It ALSO can't be expected to inspect each file for infringing content!. SOMEONE has to host the LEGAL files!. and the money laundering and racketeering?. That's ASSuming the site was DEVOTED to Copyright Infringment. Which any Filehost could be accused of, simply because they CAN'T control what files are on their servers, because they don't know!. AND, WHY should a foreign site be subject to U.S. law?. like the DMCA, which is what is being implied here. treaties? maybe other countries need to rethink them!.


mmainprize

join:2001-12-06
Houghton Lake, MI

said by iknow :

said by cdru:

said by Mr Matt:

The Supreme Court already decided this matter. If a device has both infringing uses and non infringing uses then there is no reason to prohibit offering it. MegaUpLoad meets these standards with the primary use non infringing.

I don't think the question is if MegaUpload has non-infringing uses. It does and that's easily proven. It was taken down and people arrested because of it's use for (alleged) extensive copyright infringement and subsequent money laundering and racketeering.

Now that's absurd. You CAN'T have a filehosting site with MILLIONS of files and expect that NONE of them are infringing!. It ALSO can't be expected to inspect each file for infringing content!. SOMEONE has to host the LEGAL files!. and the money laundering and racketeering?. That's ASSuming the site was DEVOTED to Copyright Infringment. Which any Filehost could be accused of, simply because they CAN'T control what files are on their servers, because they don't know!. AND, WHY should a foreign site be subject to U.S. law?. like the DMCA, which is what is being implied here. treaties? maybe other countries need to rethink them!.

Well i don't know where they get Money laundering and racketeering from. They did not prove anything before they raided and shut them down.

But it is not a secret that this site (and some of the others) paid posters/account holders to get people to join the site and buy an account, to download the files they have posted and the more times there files were downloaded the more money they made. Some posters were making thousands a month.
It is true that some of the files on these server were copyright files but that is what take down notices are for that is the way it works everywhere else.

I have never bought an account for any of these file sharing sites but those who did are now out there money and not even getting the service any more. This is becoming the norm these days, weather it is UseNet, File Sharing site or what every, you pay of a one year member ship and then get the account cut off because of some take-down notice, because the files had the word of a movie name in it, or the site is shut down for some reason and you/everyone is out there membership. In many cases no one had to prove any wrong doing just make the report and we have to prove they were wrong.


iknow

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said by mmainprize:

Well i don't know where they get Money laundering and racketeering from. They did not prove anything before they raided and shut them down.

But it is not a secret that this site (and some of the others) paid posters/account holders to get people to join the site and buy an account, to download the files they have posted and the more times there files were downloaded the more money they made. Some posters were making thousands a month.
It is true that some of the files on these server were copyright files but that is what take down notices are for that is the way it works everywhere else.

I have never bought an account for any of these file sharing sites but those who did are now out there money and not even getting the service any more. This is becoming the norm these days, weather it is UseNet, File Sharing site or what every, you pay of a one year member ship and then get the account cut off because of some take-down notice, because the files had the word of a movie name in it, or the site is shut down for some reason and you/everyone is out there membership. In many cases no one had to prove any wrong doing just make the report and we have to prove they were wrong.

The U.S. gets that from the DMCA, which is a U.S. law. which SOME countries have signed treaties to enforce as if it were their own, THAT is where it comes from. Anyone else notice an increase of various means to get money after the economy was ruined, to swing attention away from that fact, and make the politicians look good?. HMMM. Nevertheless, LEGAL files need to be hosted somewhere, and THIS just might make that impossible, seeing all the filehosters closing up. If, say Microsoft unknowingly had the files on their servers, AND they were based solely in another country, would it be ok to have them shut down?. Remember now, the DMCA is a U.S. based law, and most countries don't have a "takedown" procedure, especially if it's only links that are on the site. What has happened here is the U.S. Extending it's laws on other countries.

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