 | new ubnt setup So i'm going to be setting up a new system using ubnt gear. Rocket 2.4's with nano bridges as SU's.
Should they be set up as APs or APs with WDS? Should they be bridged? Each unit will not have a public IP at this point. They might in a few months, but not currently.
Should the unit's be set via dhcp or hard coded?
How hard will it be to change them from bridged mode later? Is there an advantage to it? I feel like things will be tripple natted currently which doesn't seem like a good idea
Any advice is appreciated.
My current setup is bridged mode, but on different infrastructure. |
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 | if you plan on using them as AP you want to put it onto AP-WDS. |
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 | reply to prairiesky Update your fiber thread!
Here is what we do:
AP-WDS on our rocket APs
STA-WDS on nsmx/nbx in router mode (we use PPPoE)
Wireless home routers in bridge mode pointing to the CPE as gateway/dhcp server. (eg 192.168.1.1 is lan side of cpe/dhcp server, AirRouter is 192.168.1.2 in bridge mode with 192.168.1.1 as gateway/dns) |
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 | reply to prairiesky +1 update on your fiber thread |
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 | reply to prairiesky Yes i too am keen to hear more about your fibre.
WDS shouldnt be used unless you need to run DHCP across it or it is a backhaul link in my opinion.
I run the rooftop radio as the natting router, so the backhaul links are a point to point AP-WDS and STA-WDS bridge.
But at the far end of a bridge, will be the client facing AP which is just an AP - not an AP-WDS.
Then on the rooftop they connect in station mode and have a static (private) ip address on their wlan side 192.168.3.x/255.255.255/0, and on the lan side its 10.1.1.1/255.0.0.0 |
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 | reply to prairiesky Everything is frozen solid here kinda which means no fibre progress until sprig. Then its gonna happen quick. Until then; the system has worked flawlessly. I have let one guy play during the wee hours and have given almost un restricted and he can easily max out my connection.
Anywho. So if i dont have pppoe and am currently using internal ips. Would it not make sense to keep everything in bridge mode. And if so, does that imply using wds or not. Its sort of been mixed answers! |
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 | If you are using static ip's you dont need WDS on your client endpoint stations.
The reason is that the DHCP is a broadcast system, where as WDS creates a true wire line connection which a broadcast signal will cross. DHCP wont cross more than two non-wds wireless links. AP to STA normal modes arent a true bridge but work fine if the backhauls are all WDS as it means there is only the one non-wds to jump across.
I am not sure if there are any down-sides to using an all-wds network. I dont as i dont want repeaters or network loops being formed between client stations that are near each other - WDS is also used for store and forward repeaters. So in a point to point link WDS can be good, but in a point-to-multipoint it can create issues (i think) |
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 jcremin join:2009-12-22 Siren, WI kudos:2 | reply to prairiesky I set most of my AP's up as AP-WDS (my AP's are Mikrotik, so I just leave them in AP-Bridge mode and set WDS mode to static) in the event that I want to extend my network through one of them for some reason.
I don't set up any CPE's as WDS Stations unless it will be bridging through to the Ethernet port. If the CPE is performing NAT or doing actual routing, then there's no advantage of having them in WDS mode unless you want to use it to be a repeater. |
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