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Romney2012
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Re: Supply and Demand

said by swhx7:

said by n2jtx:

I hate to be a party pooper but I have a hard time figuring out why the entertainment industry has to change anything. Piracy is still against the law ... why should they have to change ... ? If you do not like it, DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT!



There are a few problems with your theory.

1. The assumption that whatever the law currently says is what everyone must be content with. In reality however, the law often gets out of step with justice. Sometimes it is perverted into a weapon for enriching special interests at the expense of the public. Then people are entitled to act according to what is right, regardless of the law. That is the only way reform can happen. (Voting, you say? HAHHAHAHAHAH voting is meaningless in a two-party system).

Then change the law. The Volstead Act was repealed. And as for voting, then why are plenty of countries without a 2 party system(Canada, UK, France, etc) and who have parliamentary systems still supporting laws against piracy? Seems the voting populace in those countries don't buy into the piracy is good theory either.
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said by Romney2012:

Then change the law. The Volstead Act was repealed.

The only problem with your statement is that if the public had not rebelled against prohibition in various ways, then the law would never have been changed would it? It is only because people found a way around the law that forced the government to reconsider the folly of their ways.
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reply to Romney2012

said by Romney2012:

said by swhx7:

said by n2jtx:

I hate to be a party pooper but I have a hard time figuring out why the entertainment industry has to change anything. Piracy is still against the law ... why should they have to change ... ? If you do not like it, DO NOT BUY THE PRODUCT!

There are a few problems with your theory.

1. The assumption that whatever the law currently says is what everyone must be content with. In reality however, the law often gets out of step with justice. Sometimes it is perverted into a weapon for enriching special interests at the expense of the public. Then people are entitled to act according to what is right, regardless of the law. That is the only way reform can happen. (Voting, you say? HAHHAHAHAHAH voting is meaningless in a two-party system).

Then change the law. The Volstead Act was repealed. And as for voting, then why are plenty of countries without a 2 party system(Canada, UK, France, etc) and who have parliamentary systems still supporting laws against piracy? Seems the voting populace in those countries don't buy into the piracy is good theory either.

How do you change the law? First it's very difficult to get even 10% of the populace organized (and Facebook likes don't count), and then ask them to "contribute" in order to lobby our governments to change those laws.

Even with that 10% I can easily be outspent in "contributions" and PR by the media companies. And even if I got some traction, those media companies would start looking for dirt on me.. OH look Elwood used (how they found it is another story) 2TB's of bandwidth last month.. what was he doing? That's alot of youtube videos...

The Volstead act was repealed not because of the people, the huge amount of crime and corruption that went on, and what it was costing the governments of the day a fortune (just like the failed war on drugs)to enforce. In the end they gave up and repealed the law. The difference is there was no "interested" 3rd party (Liquor companies back then, media companies today) that have a more vested interested in making sure draconian laws are passed to make us conform to them, instead of the other way around.

Speaking of Canada, our Government is trying to ram a copyright bill down our throats that is more draconian then the DMCA, and now there are stories going around certain interest groups (read media companies) want to include some SOPA like elements into it also.

Do the people want this? No, what is our choice? In 3yrs time we can vote them out and elect a government that will repeal that law (not going to happen, but one can wish).
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reply to Romney2012

said by Romney2012:

Then change the law. The Volstead Act was repealed.

The problem with this position is that lobby groups are determining the laws... not the people. And the Volstead act is not a great example in defense of your position because the money was on the side of repeal.

It is a common theme when defending the power position:

Don't like SOPA? Change the law.
Don't like tax-free corporations? Change the tax code.
Don't like having no benefits? Find a different job.
Don't like the customer service? Go somewhere else.

Personally, I say If you don't like it... DISSENT!!

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