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Re: Supply and Demand said by mech1164:said by fifty nine:But piracy shouldn't be regarded as competition for paid content.
That would like comparing working and robbing a bank as a means of earning a living.
Again all well and good. NOW REALITY: IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THE CONSUMER. Look at it this way. For centuries people have imbibed spirits and to great excess. Now when the Government tried to in the "For the betterment of the Country" use the Volstead Act to make prohibition the law of the land. Look how that worked out. Without a legal means to get their enjoyment. People went to great (and very illegal) means to satisfy them. It wasn't until years later when they realized what a mess they had made by doing this legislation did they repeal it. Same thing happening now. People will do whatever they have to if they want it bad enough. Legal be dammed. Agreed. It doesn't matter to consumers because piracy largely has no consequences. Yeah, sure a few people get sued but the vast majority escape scot free.
It has come to the point where people view piracy as an entitlement. Sure SOPA was bad in many ways and I absolutely don't support it in its current form but no one who works in the industry can deny that piracy is a problem. |
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| said by fifty nine:It has come to the point where people view piracy as an entitlement. Sure SOPA was bad in many ways and I absolutely don't support it in its current form but no one who works in the industry can deny that piracy is a problem.
Actually, I think it is the industry with the entitlement issues... they feel they should be entitled to continue their business model by force even though technological advances have made it too difficult to control distribution of their product.
There are also many people in the industry who don't see this as a problem. There are actually artists who release their works to the world for free (imagine that!). Record companies and their shareholders definitely see this as problem; they would do better to look for the opportunity. |
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| It should entitlement to expect that you be paid for your work.
It should not be an entitlement to expect that you have the right to steal the work of others. |
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said by CXM_Splicer:said by fifty nine:It has come to the point where people view piracy as an entitlement. Sure SOPA was bad in many ways and I absolutely don't support it in its current form but no one who works in the industry can deny that piracy is a problem.
Actually, I think it is the industry with the entitlement issues... they feel they should be entitled to continue their business model by force even though technological advances have made it too difficult to control distribution of their product. This is just a bass-ackwards way of looking at the issue. You start by assuming that piracy is the way it is, and enforcing copyright laws is some weird new stupid idea (i.e. "continuing their business model by force".)
There is nothing new here. Piracy, counterfeiting, forging, knockoffs, fake watches, copying designer or trademarked clothing, copy machines to distribute printed content, etc. etc. etc. The Internet is just the next tool that does good but also enables easy copying in violation of copyright law. It's ridiculous to say that THIS tool is somehow unique and countermeasures are futile.
Rather than "continuing their business model by force", they are trying to assert their historic rights of ownership under copyright, as has been going on for centuries.
There are also many people in the industry who don't see this as a problem. There are actually artists who release their works to the world for free (imagine that!). Record companies and their shareholders definitely see this as problem; they would do better to look for the opportunity.
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| said by MyDogHsFleas:This is just a bass-ackwards way of looking at the issue. You start by assuming that piracy is the way it is, and enforcing copyright laws is some weird new stupid idea (i.e. "continuing their business model by force".)
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Rather than "continuing their business model by force", they are trying to assert their historic rights of ownership under copyright, as has been going on for centuries.
I guess who is bass ackwards depends on which which way you are facing 
Piracy IS the way it is... not by my assumption but by reality. If it weren't, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And they are not simply trying to assert their historic rights, they are trying to gain more and more rights to increase their revenues even further. It is what the shareholder primacy doctrine demands. The copyright laws have changed so much since their 'historic' times that they bear almost no resemblance to the original intent. How long was the original copyright term? How long is it now?
Again this is bass-ackwards. The fact that some artists release their works for free (or at least some of their works), and that some artists sell direct to the public through the Internet bypassing the record companies, does NOT lead one to the conclusion that free copying of works SHOULD BE THE LAW (or at least the accepted practice). This like saying some stores are online only so ALL stores MUST be online only. It's the choice of an artist or a store which way to go! Don't make it mandatory just because you happen to like one or the other. Choose with your dollars and your attention.
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said by fifty nine:It should entitlement to expect that you be paid for your work.
Well if you are talking about the artists, then yes, you certainly can blame the industry for that. They have been cheating artists out of fair pay for their work for a long time now. Unfortunately, nothing in the currently proposed legislation addresses that issue.
I highly doubt you are talking about the industry itself failing to get paid... they are making more money now than they ever have before.
It should not be an entitlement to expect that you have the right to steal the work of others.
Very strange that corporate America is always praising the tenets of Free Market Capitalism yet every chance they get, they make it less free because it benefits them. |
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