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Ctrl Alt Del
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Re: Apple Q1 2012 Earnings out.. holy crap

Guys guys...

We all know Apple is going out of business™ anyway.
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Coma
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said by Ctrl Alt Del:

Guys guys...

We all know Apple is going out of business™ anyway.


Oh no, Time Warp from the last century.

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Thaler
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said by Thaler:

but don't propose eliminating the choice for others.

Huh???

You were replying regarding my "aww hell no" response to someone proposing an Apple buy-out of Microsoft. I'm just saying I like living in a tech world where people are able to buy computers & hardware to fit their needs & desires. While Apple does make a decent product, I just think that *only* having a one-size-fits-all for everybody just makes things worse consumers as a whole.


AVD
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said by Thaler:

I just think that *only* having a one-size-fits-all for everybody just makes things worse consumers as a whole.

or in this case: more expensive.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by AVD:

I still own 900 shares of CBU bought in '88.

what is that?


macsierra
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reply to Thaler

said by Thaler:

said by macsierra:

said by Thaler:

but don't propose eliminating the choice for others.

Huh???

You were replying regarding my "aww hell no" response to someone proposing an Apple buy-out of Microsoft. I'm just saying I like living in a tech world where people are able to buy computers & hardware to fit their needs & desires. While Apple does make a decent product, I just think that *only* having a one-size-fits-all for everybody just makes things worse consumers as a whole.

OK, I see it exactly opposite of you, here's why. One size fits all is what computer users had with Microsoft until Apple finally rose into picture. You almost have to agree with that, but if not, feel free to disagree.

Even after Apple came to life we had little choice with Apple software choices. Gates sold his products simply because of demand and no other equal product was available. The guy couldn't lose and if there was ever a monopoly Microsoft was it.

Jobs sold his stuff simply on guts and innovation as a great underdog in the market. I usually root for the underdog and I'm glad I did as Apple has been good to me.

I was pissed off for the same reasons about Microsoft at that time that you are about Apple now. And I agree with what you are saying but Microsoft and Apple are two different horses.. Apple will never absorb Microsoft..
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AVD
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said by dirtyjeffer:

said by AVD:

I still own 900 shares of CBU bought in '88.

what is that?

Commodore International
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macsierra
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Commodore International was a great spurious pick..

Congratulations all around..



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said by macsierra:

OK, I see it exactly opposite of you, here's why. One size fits all is what computer users had with Microsoft until Apple finally rose into picture.

Kinda-ish. There were other OSes on the scene people could choose from way-back-when, but by and large the consumer market only had Windows to choose from. Also, even then, running Microsoft's OS never limited you in terms of hardware manufacturers. For as long as I can remember, many companies have been stamping out various computers with different hardware - the only shared component was the MS Operating System.

However, 20 years ago is forever in the tech industry - what was applicable then isn't necessarily applicable now. Right now, consumers have choices between their OS & hardware builds. An elimination of choices for computers today would only serve to hurt the consumer.


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Totally agree, with Apple going to express pc bus on the desktops it's interchangeable with most Windows video cards etc..

Hackintosh cpu's are becoming the order of the day.. I just put in a HD 6870 XFX windows card in my Mac Pro 4.1.. 10.7 has the video software already for the ATI cards.. Now I can run Windows games at decent video speeds.. Things are changing for the better..



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They are. The end-user at large though, I can't exactly speak for, lol.

I have a niece that's in school now for a degree in communications. She already has an Acer PC laptop & works fine...but somehow has it in her head that she *needs* a Macintosh. However, her parents are already significantly in the hole & struggling with daily expenses. They make it a daily point to explain to us how financially f***ed they are.

At this point, I would've just told her to deal with her brand-new PC...but she's their princess, and so she's getting a new Mac to replace her new PC. Fine, there are entry-level Macbooks that would be perfect for her use. But no, a salesman grabbed their ear, and now they feel they *have* to get a $4k loaded-to-the-gills Macbook Pro model. Great news for Apple stock holders, but terrible for us, as they've already revved up their piss-&-moan financial motors. On an avoidable purchase. On ~$3,000 in hardware upgrades that will go unused.

And no, her school has no Mac-specific needs - we're talking web browsing & word editing. The most computational-taxing thing she does with her computer is streaming video and/or Skype.



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That's a lot of coin for a MacBook Pro.. I bought my wife one last year refurbished from Apple store for $1900 loaded. Most of the Apple store refirb stuff is brand new. 3 Mac Pros refirb for me in the last 10 years and no problems.

I know long range, the plan is to get Apple products down to competitive price levels. Jobs laid out the Intel plan for the iPod and PCI express changes with that in mind. Hell, that 2 GB video ATI card I bought was only $210 from Newegg with a $30 rebate coming (I hope) brings it down to $180. Any Apple OEM card that can even get close to the XFX HD 6870 is $500 plus.

I don't know if it's good or bad but I'm a shopper when it comes to stuff like electronic toys. Oh yeah, my kids and the rest of the family think I'm the second Rockefeller but with this economy I've pulled in my horns a bunch. My net worth has tanked a bunch, the only thing I have left worth anything is my IRA holding Apple stock and gold. I've lost my ass on land the last few years. It's not fun like it used to be..
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I don't know who sold them on their particular $4k Macbook Pro or what features they added to get the price so damn high. I just know that, for MS Word editing, streaming, and social media sharing, even the most entry-level Macbook available today could handle all that for thousands less.

Normally I don't have any beef with people overpaying for technology. However, when you're in a situation where you can't afford to blow extra cash...then don't make that purchase. Live within your means.



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reply to Thaler

said by Thaler:

I have a niece that's in school now for a degree in communications. She already has an Acer PC laptop & works fine...but somehow has it in her head that she *needs* a Macintosh.

Three years ago, Gartner reported 50% of all college students used a Mac and that number was increasing. At both my son's colleges, one would agree with that 50% number while the other boy said he was one of only two he knew that did NOT have a Mac. When I visited him in Chicago, I never saw anything but Apple laptops. (He now owns a Mac.)


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I could give less of a crap about population statistics - Mac desktop penetration in colleges could be 100% for all I care. If you can't afford a $4k purchase of hardware, and your existing hardware meets all your needs (I fear the computer setup that can't handle MS Word or YouTube), then don't go dropping money you don't have.



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said by Thaler:

I fear the computer setup that can't handle MS Word or YouTube

Hm. Haven't used Word in something like 10 years. And you can watch YouTube HTML5 videos.


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Amazingly enough, a lot of academia still does though. And small offices in general. .doc still is the standard for word processor files - but there's a lot of things that open those these days.

And regarding "can't handle", I mean that it doesn't have the hardware necessary to handle streaming video and/or word processing.


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reply to northutica
pretty amazing numbers. Hopefully the stocks will surge again as well now especially the iPhones sales are just really.. sick?


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