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Hawaii may keep track of all Web sites visited
by Declan McCullagh | January 26, 2012 12:36 AM PST
Hawaii's legislature is weighing an unprecedented proposal to curb the privacy of Aloha State residents: requiring Internet providers to keep track of every Web site that their customers visit.
Its House of Representatives has scheduled a hearing this morning on a new bill (PDF)* requiring the creation of virtual dossiers on state residents. The measure, H.B. 2288, says their "Internet destination history information" and "subscriber's information" such as name and address must be saved for two years.
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Democrat Jill Tokuda, the Hawaii Senate's majority whip, has introduced a companion bill, S.B. 2530**, in the Senate. No hearing has been scheduled on Tokuda's bill.
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More @ »news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57366···ag=title
*H.B. 2288 - h t t p ://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2012/Bills/HB2288_.pdf
**S.B. 2530 - h t t p ://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2012/bills/SB2530_.pdf
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Not to worry.
Once Mele20  hears about this, she'll run them out of office.
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H.B. 2288, which was introduced last Friday, says the dossiers must include a list of Internet Protocol addresses and domain names visited.
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So, does that include all the webserver addresses of each ad on a "visited" page, since those calls are sent out from the user's system? I'm trying to picture the data fog that will result from all the URL calls from the various HTML and JavaScripts that underlie nearly all typical web pages. Browsed page after browsed page after browsed page, across countless browsing sessions...
Entirely apart from the privacy-invasive aspects of this proposal is the data-ocean effect that will result, both for those mandated to collect and those in government drooling at the prospect of analysis. These continual attempts by politicians at all levels to put the Internet and its users into chains remind me of the constant seasonal assault by ankle-biting blackflies up in the North Woods... what we really need is an effective, long-lasting repellant.
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 HA NutPremium
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Thanks for the link! A sorry, sorry thing to read! |
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Maybe they can also track down original birth certificates instead of "back up".  |
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"I was asked to introduce the Senate companions on these Internet security related bills by Representative Kymberly Marcos Pine after her own personal experience in this area," Tokuda said. "I would defer to her on the origins of these bills as she has done the research and outreach, and been the main champion of this effort."
Pine, who did not immediately respond to queries, has been targeted by a disgruntled Web designer, Eric Ryan, who launched KymPineIsACrook.com and claims she owes him money, according to an article last summer in the Hawaii Reporter. The article said Pine would advocate for "tougher cyber laws at the Hawaii State Capitol" as a result.
John Mizuno, a Democratic state legislator in Hawaii, wants to require virtual dossiers to be compiled on state residents: two years' worth of their Internet browsing.
. . "We must do everything we can to protect the people of Hawaii from these attacks and give prosecutors the tools to ensure justice is served for victims," Pine said at the time.
Well, at least it's nothing personal. |
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said by Name Game:Maybe they can also track down original birth certificates instead of "back up". If they could to that they would be miracle workers and probably magicians too! |
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Another well thought out law by someone without a clue.
The sites I type into my address bar and the links I click are a very small sampling for the websites I visit. Think about all the cross site web ads, pictures, and so on. Data overflow, even if you just log the link information.
Or, if you limit yourself to website proper the information is just as useless. Since you don't know what pages someone was looking at.
There is no middle ground. Doing a monitor everyone is just bad. Do it the way you should be doing it, with a warrant.
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Wasn't this already posted by Karl this morning?
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said by AB:. . "We must do everything we can to protect the people of Hawaii from these attacks and give prosecutors the tools to ensure justice is served for victims," Pine said at the time.
Well, at least it's nothing personal.
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Again, critics charge MegaUpload wasn't simply crushed by the government for breaking the law. If the government truly cared about the law, they would have actually punished the financial industry for running a con so massive they caused global economies to collapse. If the government truly cared about the law, they wouldn't work in concert with companies like AT&T to break surveillance and privacy law at every conceivable opportunity. The idea that this police action was solely about the "LAW" (TM) is a simplistic aerial view of the global police action taken last week in the shadows of SOPA protests.
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said by Name Game:Maybe they can also track down original birth certificates instead of "back up".
As of February 1 (I think is the date) all Hawaii citizens MUST provide an original birth certificate, passport (if they have one), Social Security card (not just the number or a letter with the number on it) to renew (or obtain first time) their drivers license or get or renew a Hawaii state ID. This new law has already wrecked havoc with extremely long lines at the police stations and people trying to renew before the law takes effect. Those of us with licenses that were renewed last year or this one (for 8 years) will have to pay an additional fee to get the license reissued with the chains attached unless we don't travel (even between the islands) or go in federal buildings.
All this is because Hawaii must finally (we had resisted for years) comply with the National ID act or whatever it called (Real ID?) that is yet another move to enslave all Americans.
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Onion, NJ | said by Mele20:said by Name Game:Maybe they can also track down original birth certificates instead of "back up".
As of February 1 (I think is the date) all Hawaii citizens MUST provide an original birth certificate, passport (if they have one), Social Security card (not just the number or a letter with the number on it) to renew (or obtain first time) their drivers license or get or renew a Hawaii state ID. This new law has already wrecked havoc with extremely long lines at the police stations and people trying to renew before the law takes effect. Those of us with licenses that were renewed last year or this one (for 8 years) will have to pay an additional fee to get the license reissued with the chains attached unless we don't travel (even between the islands) or go in federal buildings. All this is because Hawaii must finally (we had resisted for years) comply with the National ID act or whatever it called (Real ID?) that is yet another move to enslave all Americans. O heavens!!
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I think their first mistake was applying for a driver's license at a police station
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said by workablob:Wasn't this already posted by Karl this morning? Gone Fishing had it up first - an hour before I ever read it.
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How would they enforce that???
Im sure ppl will STILL USE TOR as much as they do now! |
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Re: Hawaii may keep track of all Web sites visited said by AVD:said by AB:. . "We must do everything we can to protect the people of Hawaii from these attacks and give prosecutors the tools to ensure justice is served for victims," Pine said at the time.
Well, at least it's nothing personal.
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Again, critics charge MegaUpload wasn't simply crushed by the government for breaking the law. If the government truly cared about the law, they would have actually punished the financial industry for running a con so massive they caused global economies to collapse. If the government truly cared about the law, they wouldn't work in concert with companies like AT&T to break surveillance and privacy law at every conceivable opportunity. The idea that this police action was solely about the "LAW" (TM) is a simplistic aerial view of the global police action taken last week in the shadows of SOPA protests.
Megaupload? You in the right thread here, ol' buddy?
Where does your quote come from, anyway? It's not part of the link the O.P. and I posted.
Also, you misquoted my post, from the format perspective.
The only words there that came from my mouth are "Well, at least it's nothing personal." Which was meant sardonically, as what I quoted from the O.P.s link obviously shows that the legislation proposed by John Mizuno derives from a personal vendetta by Kymberly Marcos Pine. |
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Hawaii don't have to follow Federal law now?. they can wiretap without a warrant?. |
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said by Noah Vail:said by workablob:Wasn't this already posted by Karl this morning? Gone Fishing had it up first - an hour before I ever read it. Ahh Yes I see.
Carry on then. 
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