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Re: are the days of Republicorp numbered? ATT trying to buy congress to get what it wants. it failed |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by VerizonCynic:ATT trying to buy congress to get what it wants. it failed Yes, as if that was all the Republicans' fault and the only people opposed to this merger were Democrats.
Right.
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| nothing is absolute. But what I see out of congress on the repub side is not good. I am not saying Dems any good either but its less problematic that what I see from the repub side. Remember the goal of repubs is to get rid of Obama even if it means shooting usa in the foot. The justice dept and the FCC are headed by Obama appointees. The stopped ATT. Then congress sorta piled on. Pretty sure all the top people like Stephenson at ATT are big repubs as they all want romney tax rates. Also I dont recall any congressional votes on this. So who was against it etc was all talk
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| Don't be foolish. This isn't Democrat or Republican. It's money, plain and simple. And they write the big checks to whoever happens to be in power at the time they need something done (or to not be done). Which happens to be mostly Democrats at the present. |
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| I dont disagree. But I think my point is correct that there was no vote in the house (Repub controlled now) or the senate (60 votes to do anything under repub fillibuster tactics) and that the FCC and Justice dept headed by Obama people started the ball rolling on stopping this. There are lots of dems and repubs who need re-election money and will take it from just about anyone. And we know from SOPA and Sen Stevens "tubes" comments that most (repub or dem) dont understand the net, wireless or spectrum issues.
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| Of course they don't understand these issues. The only thing they understand is greenbacks, and LOTS of them. |
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| As it was put so succinctly a few years back on an interview with Sen Hollingsworth as I recall..."The legislation is all written on K St. Legislators dont read that stuff. They dont have the time... they are too busy raising reelection money..."
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tcopePremium
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said by VerizonCynic:ATT trying to buy congress to get what it wants. it failed
AT&T was trying to buy _Congress_? How about the FCC and DOJ. |
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Sorry, Congress does not approve or approve a merger. Last time I checked they made laws. In AT&Ts case the FCC and DOJ are the approving bodies for a their merger. |
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Its harder to "buy" FCC guys and DOJ guys as first of all they have stricter rules on them than congress, secondly the FCC and DOJ guys do not run for re-election so they dont have huge appetites for cash like legislators and finally the DOJ lawyers have much stricter ethics rules on them as attys.
as for congress approving mergers, as they control the FCC I am sure they could find a way to get it approved. Problem with DOJ is that it is not under as close congressional control like FCC so harder to stop their suit. Also that suit was in the courts and as you know the courts are the third branch of govt ..not controlled by congress
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kudos:1 | Um, Congress does not control the FCC or DOJ (really leads in your theory that the DOJ and FCC are harder to buy. But don't tell Sirius that the FCC and DOJ are difficult to buy. They did it for next to nothing and against a promise that they would never merge. |
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| Well they "control" it in a way. The call FCC guys in for hearings and they have sway over FCC as they created the FCC. they also fund it. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Co···mmission
Funding is a lot of control. Ask the FAA »www.washingtonpost.com/local/con···ory.html
Ahh the good ol days...»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Syste···estiture
Interestingly ATT still recalls those days and knew going to court with DOJ was a bad thing as it could not buy the judges. It fares much better with congress and fcc
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said by VerizonCynic:nothing is absolute. But what I see out of congress on the repub side is not good. I am not saying Dems any good either but its less problematic that what I see from the repub side. Remember the goal of repubs is to get rid of Obama even if it means shooting usa in the foot. The justice dept and the FCC are headed by Obama appointees. The stopped ATT. Then congress sorta piled on. Pretty sure all the top people like Stephenson at ATT are big repubs as they all want romney tax rates. Also I dont recall any congressional votes on this. So who was against it etc was all talk
But your first statement was.
And who were the biggest supporters of SOPA and PIPA? Democrats with Harry Reid leading the way.
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said by VerizonCynic:Its harder to "buy" FCC guys and DOJ guys as first of all they have stricter rules on them than congress, secondly the FCC and DOJ guys do not run for re-election so they dont have huge appetites for cash like legislators and finally the DOJ lawyers have much stricter ethics rules on them as attys.
Yeah, UPS had no problem buying the FCC back in 1988.
And FCC commissioners may not be elected but they sure as hell get nice jobs as lobbyist and board members after they leave the FCC.
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | reply to VerizonCynic
You seem to be backpedaling pretty hard here buddy. Perhaps you should go home and rethink your (failed) argument, m'kay?  |
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| nothing in my posts wrong...no one has posted any facts to rebut anything I said |
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| said by VerizonCynic:nothing in my posts wrong...no one has posted any facts to rebut anything I said
I did and the SOPA bill was proof enough. |
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| You did not give any "facts" in your post. Also my post you first commented on was not about SOPA. I said congress did not vote on ATT deal. You now bring up SOPA which is not part of this thread. I cant find all the vote totals (D vs R) out there (house and sen.) on SOPA but I am sure they were out there. "Biggest" supporters not verifiable unless you try to link cash taken from SOPA cos. thats heard to tally. So I go with total votes. This was cute since you bring up SOPA: »www.americablog.com/2012/01/stor···ney.html
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | reply to VerizonCynic
said by VerizonCynic:nothing in my posts wrong...no one has posted any facts to rebut anything I said
Nobody needed to! You contradicted YOURSELF.... |
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What about the fact that UPS got the FCC to pull 2 MHZ of bandwidth from the amateur radio spectrum for a system that never happened? Go look that up.
How about the fact that multiple FCC commissioners go on to lobbying positions after they leave the agency? |
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