| reply to gunther_01
Re: subscriber shutoffs and web payments I like all of these packages, guys, but its not in my budget right now. Perhaps in another 50-100 customers....
I am really close to making this Mikrotik redirect page work. Just got to build a simple web page with payment options. This will work for me for now - it will take the customer contact out of the equation, which will ultimately save me time (and I'll get paid!)
One question about powercode - does the $1.40 per customer cover the credit card fee if they pay you that way, or is it seperate? |
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| reply to jakkwb
no that 1.40 doesnt cover the credit card fee all that covers the BMU and billing server licensing and support from powercode so the credit card fee will be separate. |
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| reply to jakkwb
Same with Azotel. Merchant fees are not included in the network management software/hardware price. Totally seperate companies, and line items on your bookwork.
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OK, so I have them redirected to my payment web page. Problem is, using Paypal, the page needs access to Paypals web site to make it all work, it is being blocked by the redirect code.
Any suggestions? |
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| reply to jakkwb
You could possibly add a firewall rule before your redirect rules to allow port 80 traffic to paypals IP block (whatever that may be). In that case that traffic will get matched prior to your redirect rule and not redirect the paypal traffic. I don't know for sure if you could possibly use URL's instead of IP's but I don't think so. Also if your paypal link on your redirect page uses Https, your port 80 rule wouldn't come in to play any way.
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| reply to jakkwb
Yah, the Paypal link uses HTTPS.... |
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| reply to jakkwb
Create a walled garden with paypal's ip addresses in it. |
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OK, but I am not using Mikrotiks Hotspot or their Usermanager, just an address-list with non-paid IPs in it. Will that still work? |
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Let me ask it this way - If the walled garden method has to have the Hotspot service running, can this service run transparently without the user knowing or needing to login in any way? |
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I have tried a few different methods for this so far:
»[Tech Ops] Billing/Non-Pay Redirect
and the method from Mikrotiks payment reminder WIKI.
I cannot get this to work at all. This is really frustrating. Can someone who has this working successfully post their Mikrotik config? I can use either Paypal or authorize.net
Again, I am not using Hotspot or UserManager...But, if this will work using either or both, please let me know. I am not using radius for my clients right now, either.
Thank you! |
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| reply to jakkwb
Very simple. Enable Web Proxy, change the default port to say 8081, create a firewall rule to drop any traffic to the public IP of the box to 8081. Add whatever websites you need to the Web Proxy access list so you can accept payments. Redirect the offending customers port 80 traffic on their IP to port 8081 and set the web proxy to redirect them to a web page of their choice.
For example:
Under IP Firewall NAT:
22 X ;;; Non paying customer
chain=dstnat action=redirect to-ports=8081 protocol=tcp
src-address=172.18.18.27 dst-port=80
Under Web Proxy:
0 dst-host=:delmarvawifi action=allow hits=0
1 dst-host=:cartsquare action=allow hits=0
2 X ;;; Non paying customer
src-address=172.18.18.27 action=deny
redirect-to="www.delmarvawifi.com/id75.html" hits=35 |
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| said by wirelessdog:Very simple. Enable Web Proxy, change the default port to say 8081, create a firewall rule to drop any traffic to the public IP of the box to 8081. Add whatever websites you need to the Web Proxy access list so you can accept payments. Redirect the offending customers port 80 traffic on their IP to port 8081 and set the web proxy to redirect them to a web page of their choice.
For example:
Under IP Firewall NAT:
22 X ;;; Non paying customer
chain=dstnat action=redirect to-ports=8081 protocol=tcp
src-address=172.18.18.27 dst-port=80
Under Web Proxy:
0 dst-host=:delmarvawifi action=allow hits=0
1 dst-host=:cartsquare action=allow hits=0
2 X ;;; Non paying customer
src-address=172.18.18.27 action=deny
redirect-to="www.delmarvawifi.com/id75.html" hits=35
Is there a way to have a page like this redirect once every hour or so? I would like my reminder to be a bit more gentle, where they can see it and then continue working on X if they are in the middle of it, and -then- pay. |
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| That method does work! I shut off three accounts tonite, and await Paypal payment. Cool.
I actually got this part to work using an address list:
22 X ;;; Non paying customer
chain=dstnat action=redirect to-ports=8081 protocol=tcp
src-address=172.18.18.27 dst-port=80
Instead of having to enter this command lots of times.
The bottom one:
2 X ;;; Non paying customer
src-address=172.18.18.27 action=deny
redirect-to="www.delmarvawifi.com/id75.html" hits=35
Is there any way to make it work with the same address list I created above?
Thank you so much for sharing this with me. You have made my day! |
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Not sure on the address list. |
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said by jakkwb:That method does work! I shut off three accounts tonite, and await Paypal payment. Cool.
I actually got this part to work using an address list:
22 X ;;; Non paying customer
chain=dstnat action=redirect to-ports=8081 protocol=tcp
src-address=172.18.18.27 dst-port=80
Instead of having to enter this command lots of times.
The bottom one:
2 X ;;; Non paying customer
src-address=172.18.18.27 action=deny
redirect-to="www.delmarvawifi.com/id75.html" hits=35
Is there any way to make it work with the same address list I created above?
Thank you so much for sharing this with me. You have made my day!
go to the address lists tab on ip>firewall, add your range into the lists and label as "nonpay" or something. then in your dstnat rule, clear out your entry for "src-address", click advanced and on src address list click the drop down and select "nonpay".
holy shit i just helped someone else with a MT issue. |
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I already have that in place. I'm talking about in the web-proxy settings for "web proxy access" That is where the second set of code (2 X ;;;Non paying customer)
I am having to enter their IP in two different places - the address list and the web-proxy-access. Would like to consolidate it if possible where I only have to put them in the address list.
Thanks for the help! |
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| Can you add the entire subnet into the web proxy figuring only certain customers will have their port 80 traffic redirected? |
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| said by wirelessdog:Can you add the entire subnet into the web proxy figuring only certain customers will have their port 80 traffic redirected?
I believe so. That's what I would suggest. |
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| reply to jakkwb
quote:
One question about powercode - does the $1.40 per customer cover the credit card fee if they pay you that way, or is it seperate?
It doesn't but we can generally help you save money on your credit card transactions as well.
I'd agree with Gunther's earlier statement - we may or may not be cheaper than Azotel up front and the startup costs are very different but at the end of the day, you want to make a decision about the way forward based on your needs, not solely price.
If you're coming out to ISP America in March, most of the major WISP billing/management systems will be there, come check them out. |
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