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bkwyatt98

join:2012-01-05
Martinsville, VA
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mlppp

okay i thought that mlppp has to be supported by the isp but everything i have been reading says that it is just on the router side if thats the case I could take a router and flash tomato on it on use the mlppp to bond my two lines together right without having to have any support from the isp.


chpalmer

join:2002-11-18
Belfair, WA
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·VOIPo

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Nope- ISP has to support it.

ISP = whoever your traffic terminates with. So you could have multiple ISP's to get your traffic to Sharedband (or someone like them) but your traffic must be fragmented over the multiple links and reassembled on the other end. Sharedband is the ISP that is supporting the bonding in this scenario.

Load Balancing is just that. You take several smaller streams and loadbalance them over multiple connections.

Take pfSense for example. I use MLPPP on mine. I have 1 public IP address. Others that use this router might have loadbalancing that sends traffic over multiple links depending on how busy the other link is. You can also route specific traffic over each link. But thats what it is... Multiple links. Multiple Public IP addresses...

A couple of companies offer devices such as Mushroom and one other that escapes me that offer a VPN link between two like routers that will fragment over multiple wan links and reassemble on the other end. Thats what I believe Sharedband does.



toby
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA
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·OlyPen, Inc.
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reply to bkwyatt98
In OR/WA I have contacted quite a few ISPs, these told me that they do support MLPPP over multiple DSL lines

»www.drizzle.com
»www.olypen.com

I will install Tomoto/MLPPP on a WRT54G router.

Both sites don't mention anything about supporting MLPPP, I don't know why, they'd get more business if they kept their websites up to date.

Anyone used either of these? Do they watch how much data you use, olypen mentions BW on their T1 lines, so I wonder if they watch you.

My concern is these businesses going away after I signed up with them. I'm curious how they stay in business as if you were getting a single line from them, it costs a lot more than if you just got it through CL alone.


treichhart

join:2006-12-12

reply to bkwyatt98
Alright Centurylink and Frontier/Verizon are the 2 major DSL companies do not support or offer MLPPP on there network.



chpalmer

join:2002-11-18
Belfair, WA
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·VOIPo

reply to toby
Olypen has been around for a long time and serves many people on the Olympic peninsula. MLPPP is fairly new to them so I figure that the website changes will eventually come. They are where I get my MLPPP.

When you use another ISP over CL they do not charge you the rates they do if they are your ISP. They are simply the transfer medium to the other ISP at that point and reduce the rate accordingly.

Ive never had any issues with Olypen and the data rates we use. But Ive never gone over 200 gig either...

I can't speak for drizzle.com...

Reachone in Lacey was talking about providing MLPPP. If you haven't you might ping them...



chpalmer

join:2002-11-18
Belfair, WA
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reply to treichhart

quote:
Alright Centurylink and Frontier/Verizon are the 2 major DSL companies do not support or offer MLPPP on there network.
When you use another ISP the ppp is done on the other ISP's router. So technically c-link is only providing the transfer medium at this point. Ive had MLPPP over C-link dsl to Olypen for over 9 months now.


toby
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA
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·OlyPen, Inc.
·CenturyLink

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reply to bkwyatt98
Signed up for Olypen, will see how it goes. They were very helpful on the phone.
They said another customer uses mlppp, that could be you.

I emailed Reachone twice asking if they support mlppp for my address, never heard back from them.

I installed Tomato MLPPP on a WRT54GS router, I shall see if I can get that working. Do you use pfsense?



chpalmer

join:2002-11-18
Belfair, WA
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·VOIPo

said by toby:

Do you use pfsense?

Yep!


toby
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13
Seattle, WA
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·OlyPen, Inc.
·CenturyLink

reply to bkwyatt98
Been using olypen for a few days now, even on a single line, the network just works better in general than CL's.

Now I have both lines set to fastpath, the latencies are about the same, now MLPPP works really well. I have two 1.5 Mbps DSL lines through CL.

I'm using a Linksys WRT54GS v4 router with the Tomato-MLPPP firmware (mp3alpha7). »www.fixppp.org/index.php?p=documentation
I think I will try pfense too.

Speed test here:
»results.speedtest.comcast.net/re···3372.png

Of course during peak hours, the DSLAM is still oversold, but now I get twice what a I would normally get, as I get twice 'my share' of whats available.


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