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reply to KoRnGtL15

Re: [WIN7] Reload OS with ssd and hdd?

reply to jaa
OK, I'm old and don't really know anything any more. Old school and just trying to give back to the forum. Sorry about that. I WISH I could even afford a ssd. The win7 system gives me a low rating because the HD is slow. Anyway, was just trying to help. This info comes from someone who started with win 98 and pata. Sorry about that.
Edit again, I never really got caught up with sata. Isn't that a hd with the wider cables? lol. I just feel like hardware should be manipulated before the OS or bios does the work.

Joewho, you are right on the mark with what you said in your last post, and one a few up as well, and that is what I was trying to get across in my posts.

If you look at the motherboard itself, and if you plug things in correctly, be it with the old IDE HD's with the jumpers and 40 pin ribbon cables, or the new SATA HD's and SDD's, you cannot make a mistake if you have your drives plugged in correctly before you do the install.

I will say that if you have your SDD plugged into Sata port #6, and your HDD plugged into SATA port 3, and you want to install the OS onto your SDD, things probably won't work the way you expect them to. But, instead of trying to jump through this hoop, or do this trick, or try this workaround to disable whatever in the install, just take a few minutes to get to know your computer, open it up, and make the very easy adjustments to how things are plugged in.

Its like with a car..you would never just dump any kind of liquid into the oil pan would you? Of course not (unless you don't want your engine to ever work again). Same with a computer. Now, I'm not saying we all need to be "experts" here, but this is basic stuff. The order things are connected to the motherboard does make a difference. So if you take 5 minutes out of your day to look at how the drives are connected to the motherboard, you will save yourself hours of headaches later.

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reply to KoRnGtL15
Recovery discs I will make right away when setting it up. Reason why the the "clean" install. They always put a recovery partition on the same drive. It is usually about 25-30gb. And depending on the bloat that comes with it. Not sure how much space it will take from the ssd. So, between the 2 right off the bat. The ssd will have about 60-70gb taken up. That is lots of space that can be saved by doing a clean install with windows 7 and drivers/updates only. Then again. I could give HP a benefit of the doubt. They will not load the pc up to much with bloat. Considering the main drive being a ssd is only 160gb.

reply to KoRnGtL15
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the reason to only have the SSD installed during a "Windows 7" OS install is that the OS may not be optimised for an SSD if a HDD is detected in addition to the SSD.

This may or may not be true but I don't hold much stock in it.

reply to KoRnGtL15
I agree with what you said KoRnGtL15. Make your recovery discs before you begin just in case you need them. I would also go looking for some kind of drivers folder. It may not be C:\Drivers, but there should be some folder off the root drive that should be of size that contains all the drivers, and maybe even some of the application installs as well. At first, I would save the entire folder, but you may not need everything (more on the way I do that in just a bit).

I agree with you on a clean install instead of doing an uninstall of all the applications. We all know that every uninstall does not remove EVERY single registry entry it created, or every single file, or other modification made to the system. If they did, then we would not have to do this. But, since they don't, its better to do a clean install of the OS, and only install the applications you will need.

Doing a clean install will also like you said, remove the recovery partition, and that will give you that disc space back. If you have your recovery DVD's, why have the recovery partition?

Personally for me, when I do a driver install, I try to only install just the driver. For example, on my system, I do have a built-in LAN card that Windows 7 did not automatically have a driver for. If I look on the DVD that came with my motherboard, the full directory for the LAN install is 32 MB. However, the actual driver directory itself, with the 6 files I need when I install the driver, is only 2.34 MB in size. While both are very small, I hope you see my point here. When I install a driver, I do it from the device manager (right-click on the missing device, browse to the folder where the driver is, and install it). That way, I don't get all that bloat that goes with it. I actually take the time to figure this out by installing the OS a few times, so that I know exactly which files I need for which missing device. A lot of work yes, but at least I know exactly what files are needed for a given driver, and I don't waste the space on extra folders and files I don't need to get the hardware to work.

Again, it sounds like you are on the right track to do this. Good luck with your new Laptop!

--Brian
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reply to KoRnGtL15
This may or may not be of some help to you:

TweakTown's Solid State Drive Optimization Guide

It’s a little old but its still a good read. I don’t necessarily agree with everything said in the guide but its probably worth a quick look.

reply to plencnerb
Brian, we just bought a house at washington and charles in c,ville. Didn't change the info on dslr yet. My wifes family used to own crightons, on 72.
But yeah, I'm stuck on the 40 pin ribbons, win 98 and finicky hardware. Thanks for your support. I use a xps laptop and rarely go inside a desktop any more. However, this laptop has a seperate video card. I changed it out twice, at great expense, only to see them die again.

Tim

I love big bang theory and have a red xps, like Sheldon. BANG!

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