 christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Bonded channels blue light cheyenne Getting ready to go to work this morning, and checking the house like I normally do. I noticed my modem (Moto SB6120) had a blue receive light instead of all green like the others. I first checked my phone (private voip) to make sure the internet connection was still there. (It was). I remember reading about the light going blue when the receive channels are bonded. So I fired up the computer and checked out the modem. Sure enough, there are now 4 "Bonded" channels.
Now, in the past, I would average download connection speeds of between 20-30mbps depending on the time of day and if all the neighbors were home from work/school/etc... I quickly checked the speed with the optimum test site and it was consistent 32mbps. But I can't really determine anything until tonight when I get home from work and everyone else is on the internet.
So; assuming that the connection is going to stay bonded on the receive, what are the advantages I should basically see? Like I said; most times, I'm still close to the 30mb anyway, so if speed isn't really increasing, what improvements should I notice. I know this topic has been discussed, and normally I would do some searching and find the answer, but today I am really swamped at work and simply don't have the time. Any insight would be appreciated. mike.... |
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Hoboken, NJ
 ·Optimum Online
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Bell Canada
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| You should see more consistency in your speeds during peak hours. Instead of having one saturated 'hose;, you now have four that have a lot of head room.
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Thanks for the info. One thing i noticed this morning when I tried a speed test. The optimum speed test site showed the consistent 32mb/5mb service. I then went to another speed test site, and it was showing around 18mb/5mb. Of course, with many people doing speed tests, those sites can be misleading. Also; my modem and nodes can give me a more consistent 30/5mb to the head end; BUT if our local Optimum cable company doesn't have the best backhaul connection to the internet, then we could still be oversubscribed once we leave town. (Which is probably 99.9% of all internet traffic.
So, bonding and giving better bandwidth and consistency is great; but it doesn't mean much if the head end doesn't improve/increase their connectivity to the "Real World". Of course, customers will complain, but Optimum and show the proper and paid for speeds to "THEM", and basically tell you that there is nothing wrong. So my point is: Bonding and increasing bandwidth doesn't mean anything if their backhaul isn't able to match the traffic. mike.... |
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tmpchaosRequiescat in pacePremium,Mod
join:2000-04-28
Hoboken, NJ | Where did you run the outside speedtest to? |
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Don't remember the site of the top of my head. I'll report back tonight after work. It's a site that is pretty consistent. It's NOT speedtest.net. (Nothing wrong with them, just a different site). Anyway; this other site usually runs pretty straight. It showed about 15mb/5 this morning. But again; I only fired up the PC for about 3 minutes to do a quick speed test and to look at the moto SB6120 status page to verify bonding. I'll check and do more tests tonight. Thanks. Mike... |
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| i've tried plenty of sites doing speedtests and they report all over the place. What i usually do is download a large file from microsoft or apple and that'll tell me what the real speeds are. If my connection can do 5.77MB/s from Microsoft.com the whole 3.44GB download then i'm getting my speeds and then some! 
I'll go on Speedtest.net and see 62Mbps, go on testmy.net and see 16 which makes no sense. I'll go on other sites and see 55 so it all depends. |
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| See this is at work now, we have 30/5 BOOL Static.
another DC one:
This one is way over in San Diego.
All done right after each other. |
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | When I get home tonight, I'll see if the new BONDED downstream is any different than what I'm use to with the single channel. I'll also do some research to determine changes in up/down power; SNR; etc... mike... |
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tmpchaosRequiescat in pacePremium,Mod
join:2000-04-28
Hoboken, NJ Reviews:
·Optimum Online
Host:
All Things Macintosh
Bell Canada
Digital Imaging
Digital Imaging Te..
| These were my levels on the motorola, the morning they installed the Arris. |
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | here's my stats. I live quite far out, so the -8 down power and 54 upstream don't bother me. |
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Guess it would help to add my speed test. |
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said by christcorp:Getting ready to go to work this morning, and checking the house like I normally do. I noticed my modem (Moto SB6120) had a blue receive light instead of all green like the others. I first checked my phone (private voip) to make sure the internet connection was still there. (It was). I remember reading about the light going blue when the receive channels are bonded. So I fired up the computer and checked out the modem. Sure enough, there are now 4 "Bonded" channels.
Congrats on going wideband. You should get faster speeds in having more bandwidth to communicate to the headend. Everything from the local headend to the internet will be at the same speed. Most speed issues are between the modem and the headend.
For others, sometimes docsis 3 modems don't pick up the wideband config automatically, and will remain in docsis 2 mode, so it can't hurt to reboot your modem if you have one that isn't operating in wideband. I'm sure they'll do a batch reboot of all such modems after they're rolled out though. |
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said by christcorp:So, bonding and giving better bandwidth and consistency is great; but it doesn't mean much if the head end doesn't improve/increase their connectivity to the "Real World". Of course, customers will complain, but Optimum and show the proper and paid for speeds to "THEM", and basically tell you that there is nothing wrong. So my point is: Bonding and increasing bandwidth doesn't mean anything if their backhaul isn't able to match the traffic. mike.... This is exactly what I am seeing in Butte as well. Awesome speeds (33Mb/s even) to all of OOL's internal servers but anything beyond that is still about 15-20Mb/s oftentimes far less than that. I have another thread that shows just that: »[Bresnan] DOCSIS 3.0 + Channel Bonding in Butte
If I were to call they would have me run those tests and say that they have no control whatsoever of my speeds once I leave their network, which is fascinating because other services are spot on with their speeds outside of the network. I hate how they can hide behind that veil and not upgrade their peering arrangements with more bandwidth. Bresnan/OOL might not have control of other parties but they do have control over how much bandwidth they buy from said other parties. |
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christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | I am fortunate, because I live in Cheyenne. When I use the OOL online test; the one that gives choices of grand junction, cheyenne, casper, billings, and missoula.... The bottom 4 give me consistent 32mb/5mb readings. The Missoula test however seems to average around 20mb. Sometimes the 32mb, but most times in the low 20's.
That shows that the connection between OOL cheyenne (Where I'm at), at OOL Missoula, has a weak link. Possibly way over subscribed. Possibly just not the more modern technology needed to sustain 30+mb for all traffic. I would assume that the same problem is happening between Powell and OOL.
To be honest, I didn't really look at your traceRoutes, so I don't know if after leaving Powell, if you head towards Casper or north to Montana. Also not sure if OOL's contract is with a 3rd party which is riding Qwest(CenturyLink), TCT, RT/Range, or a direct connect with Level 3, XO, etc... That's the biggest problem. Not knowing their true routing. Even a traceRoute doesn't always give accurate information as to "WHO" the connection is truly with.
But you are quite correct that the problem is with their arrangements with the backhaul. The good news however is, if you look back 10-12 years, you can see that they are improving and trying to make things better. Maybe not at the pace we'd like, but you have to give them credit. I remember when I first had cable; because DSL wasn't available. It was 256KB service. DSL came in with 1.5mb/896kb and cable was still in the 512kb area. Unfortunately, DSL stagnated because of very shiitie business decisions with Qwest. They gave more bandwidth to a select sect of customers that they didn't have to invest in. My area is still 1.5/896 DSL. The cable company (Through it's evolution to finally being OOL), continuously moved forward. 1mb, then 3mb, then 8mb, then 15mb, then boost to 30mb, and now bonded channels. Maybe not all places at the same time, but at least they're moving in the right direction. Phone companies and DSL are going to die, because their business attitude is: "We are losing customers to cell phones, so we don't have enough money to invest in the plant, which means we lose more customers to cable broadband, which means even less money to invest in the plant, etc...
Then again; I am the "Eternal Optimist". I always find the good in things. Life is too short. One day, I'm going to wake up, and be dead. Can't sweat the little things. |
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