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Re: New Exede customers, please post said by Sircolby45:A slow connection can stream 480p Youtube just fine.
Footnote - FYI, here's a simple Youtube video parameters...notice the Bitrate column in Mbits/s.
»www.youtube.com22/watch?v=Ovl0_YK9rB4
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LOL, the tower I draw off of has a population of about 800 with another 200 rural residents maybe in range of that tower, the people in town can't get a signal because the town is in a valley and the signal overshoots them, there is a creek I can almost jump across for the grandest attraction for people to move there so and at least 30 chicken farms with 8 to 10 houses each and 2 ranches and a protien plant at the chicken plant which all works together to stink those same said pilgrims out before they come house hunting so I think I am safe from the pilgrims, LMAO. Just that protien plant alone can gag a maggot at 10 miles down wind and that tower sets right beside that plant. Also if you take a look on the Millenicom site, you will see that the speeds on the verizon side of the service are pretty decent really. I dunno where you get your info but as usual it sounds to be from about 10 years ago. #g is pushed to the limit in urban areas but there again, if you live in one of those areas there is a good chance you don't need satellite or cell internet. Oh and before you try to throw this one out there, the nearest major highway is about 15 or so miles from that tower and covered with towers of it's own so no congestion there either.
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| Good enough till the you tube video I just watched was loaded by the time the song was about half way through on auto quality full screen.
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said by zeddlar:LOL, the tower I draw off of
Many of those rural towers only have a T1: 1.544 mbps
Millenicom - To my awareness, they just resale...and from doing a local search, and knowing my closet cell tower has only a T1, their "analysis" is a joke.
I'm sure a few folks might get lucky, but most are stuck on the slow lane during primetime. |
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I am thinking about jumping from Alltel 3G to Exede. I currently have a very poor signal with Alltel 3G (I have an external signal booster also to help). I am in a divested area that didn't get sold to Verizon because of a possible monopoly (THANKS FCC). I believe the cell tower is overloaded due to everyone in this area relying on Aircards for their internet since it is noticeably slower in the evenings and weekends.
The best I can get is 275Kbps sometimes less than 100Kbps and I am paying $60/month but it is a legacy plan with unlimited data. The speed seems to be getting worse and worse by the month I used to get 1.2-1.5 Mbps two years ago. My ping is usually around 300-650ms.
I am aware of the 7.5 GB/month two way Up and Down limit but I am thinking that I shouldnt hit my threshold often as little as I am at home. And I have a rooted smartphone with a tether app for backup internet.
Am I correct in the $49/month plus $9.99/month for the equipment lease and a $150 installation fee being standard for Exede? I thought I read somewhere that the cancellation fee was $15/month which doesn't seem all that bad if you need to get out.
I hope that I can get decent browsing (I dont think 600ms latency is that bad is it?) maybe even a netflix standard deff movie in once in awhile. Maybe I will even be able to youtube without waiting 15 mins for a buffer. Am I crazy? I had sat (Direcway) back in the day and I remember the terrible tech support and blackouts. But that 12 Mbps sounds tempting!! |
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I got excede today; former Hughes.net since 2003. Unbelievable. 18.1 mbps 2.20 mbps, 650 latency. Youtube works. Surfing good.
My install began yesterday - 5 hrs. The install completed today - 20 mins. First installer had never seen the system in person. Had some internet training (installed 100s of wildblue sats). Second installer had hands on training and had installed 5 excedes before me. Ist installer did not understand how to provision the system.
Very happy. Working from home. Sweet. |
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1 edit | reply to DrStrangLov
4G device off a far LTE tower? Looks like he's pulling off a close LTE tower, but the signal isn't strong enough, so it reverts back to 3G.
Its NOT a T-1 tower, probably a fiber fed tower, because the provider is WIRELESS DATA SERVICE, and not Cellco Partnership (which is a EVDO 3G tower).
said by DrStrangLov
Many of those rural towers only have a T1: 1.544 mbps
Millenicom - To my awareness, they just resale...and from doing a local search, and knowing my closet cell tower has only a T1, their "analysis" is a joke.
I'm sure a few folks might get lucky, but most are stuck on the slow lane during primetime.
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Re: New Exede customers, please post What plan are you on? Intersting that it still lists in the wildblue.net domain.
said by Nick Adams :I got excede today; former Hughes.net since 2003. Unbelievable. 18.1 mbps 2.20 mbps, 650 latency. Youtube works. Surfing good.
My install began yesterday - 5 hrs. The install completed today - 20 mins. First installer had never seen the system in person. Had some internet training (installed 100s of wildblue sats). Second installer had hands on training and had installed 5 excedes before me. Ist installer did not understand how to provision the system.
Very happy. Working from home. Sweet.
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said by bak2sat :I am thinking about jumping from Alltel 3G to Exede.
I'll let zeddlar (et.al) take the rest of your comments...but, if one is OK with 7.5 GB/month, its a no brainer in my book....but if you live in Idaho, it will only have 5 mbps.
AWCC is in Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Illinois, Ohio and Idaho...so, I don't know which state you live in. |
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said by compuguybna:Intersting that it still lists in the wildblue.net domain.
AT&T has supplied a large number of addresses to Wildblue...I have no idea what Exede's 12 mbps addresses are, but it would not surprise me they could be "left over" addresses when Wildblue started in 2005. |
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| That tower was put there for the company I work for originally by alltel and was rebuilt after a tornado took it out last year by Verizon and it is fiber fed which they also did when they rebuilt it. Sorry to burst your bubble. With a couple of questions I can tell you anything you want to know about it, even the contractor that built the tower itself and the contractor that built the original. The only thing I can't tell you is a specific date as to when they will light it up with LTE. The only info we have so far is that it should be before the end of this year if everything stays on schedule. This is the reason I jumped on the hotspot.
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1 edit | reply to DrStrangLov
said by DrStrangLov :Certainly true, however, the DSL market leaders
768/kbps down, with 128 kbps up
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12 mbps down, with 3 mbps up
Other than gamers, vpners, and those doing lots of https, I don't think so. Many web pages these days require downloading much more databytes than in 1994.
Having a constant turtle like internet speeds can never catch up to a fast rabbit who delays a moment at the start line.
my friend had a 768kbps dsl connection and pretty much every web page loaded faster than it did on my hughesnet connection when i was getting a constant 2.5mb down
Youtube videos might buffer but you don't have to worry about the caps. |
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Was that chart supposed to help your case? Looks like you just proved my point to me. For 854x480(Which is actually higher than the 480p standard) it only requires 0.8-1Mbit/s. Which means a 768k could easily stream 480p with very little to no buffering. Even if it is at the upper end of 1Mbit/s the amount of buffering needed would be minimal. A little bit of buffering is better than not being able to watch at all in fear of hitting data caps.
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| said by Sircolby45:Was that chart supposed to help your case?
Which means a 768k could easily stream 480p
DSL speeds vary with distance from their equipment, and quality of their lines.
Translation - DSL service ranges from 128 Kbps to 3 Mbps and higher.
"ADSL can generally only be distributed over short distances from the telephone exchange (the last mile), typically less than 4 kilometres (2 mi), but has been known to exceed 8 kilometres (5 mi) if the originally laid wire gauge allows for further distribution."
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said by byzw :Can someone post their typical clear sky downstream signal to noise ratio? Wildblue has various specs that only those who work on equipment can see.
I don't know if ViaSat's Surfbeam II modem allows users to see satellite signal data.
Its been too long since this topic was addressed, but I think on Wildblue's data, it was having higher numbers (negative) was better.
Easiest way to test is to do a speed test after/before primetime. |
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said by bak2sat :Am I correct in the $49/month plus $9.99/month for the equipment lease and a $150 installation fee being standard for Exede? There are two entities involved here:
1. ViaSat
2. National Rural Telecommunications Cooperative (NRTC) - Coops
So, it may depend upon who does your service.
I've heard that a person can buy equipment instead of leasing it.
As they say, "No equipment to purchase - monthly lease fee covers equipment cost, including lifetime replacement for equipment failure not caused by customer service call fee required for equipment failure not included " |
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Footnote - I would highly suggest reading this short article below...I see this type of throttling coming in your future...on a different note, I see T-Moblile allows first 100 Mbytes at full speed, then poof goes the speed.
»AT&T Wages Quiet War on Grandfathered Unlimited Users |
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Well.....I pulled the trigger. When I left WB years ago, it was for a 3G carrier in my area who had a cool modem/router all in one and had a decent speed of 1M down and 512K up. Those speeds have dropped to 300K and 100K because they have over-sold the local tower.
Yes, I know, the same can happen with WB and it probably will. But......EVEN if it drops to half of advertised, I'm still going to be happy. Right now, its once again painful for simple tasks of browsing and getting emails.
So, its being installed on Thursday. I will post a review this weekend once I have played around.
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| reply to DrStrangLov
First off, AT&T has nothing to do with Millenicom and second of all Millenicom has already discussed the 3G signal degradation that verizon implemented on unlimited users a few months ago if you go over 2 GB on a 3G device and they stated that this will not effect third party resellers devices in any way and it will never affect any 4G device of theirs or third party vendors. They have a contract with Millenicom which only allows for a maximum 20 GB cap and as long as MC sticks with that limit then it unlikely that any of MC's users will ever see throttling because before LTE starts getting overloaded to much LTE advanced will be being released which will further enhance the amount of bandwidth availible so I don't see many problems in the future. But go right on ahead and dream up all the problems you want to for me and I will go right on enjoying not having the problems you are having pipe dreams about, LOL. And btw, I have went over that 2 GB on my phone since that was implemented and my tower doesn't even have enough of a load for that to affect me either. I still get my 3 bars right here at my desk just like always and the same speeds as usual. Just like satellite, your service is going to depend on where your tower is located and the load on that tower at any givin time and also how the tower was built and its backhaul line are going to affect service as well. We have a brand new 500' tower with a fiber line and not many people to use it and thus service is great.
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