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noprivacy

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Why do people not care about their privacy anymore?

There are millions of users these days who provide their personal information to the public via FB, G+, Twitter, etc etc. Some even use geolocation social network apps on their phones. Yet they do not care. Why?

When I was going to school many years ago, every teacher would discuss about the importance of privacy and to never give any personal, identifiable information to anyone out there on the Internet. And many of us agreed with that notion.

Now, everyone is pouring all their information out there. I don't get it. Social media services are even more creepy these days.

Have people gone nuts or getting dumber? It's baffling to me.


ironwalker
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All followers.
My teachers and my parents taught me to never give personal info out too anyone verbally or written if it was not really needed. Soial security number was the main one.
I always lied on pesonal info except for with the police, although the police here have a habit of asking for social even if you are the one calling the police to come and help you.
They do ss to check to see if you have any warrents and to check your record which is none of there business if I am the one calling to say my houe was robbed, I've been shot, or complain about a eighbor hooting my windows with there bb gun.
I take my privacy serious. I use avatars instead of pictures, I use screennames instead of my real name, you get the idea.

I do not even use those discount cards for shopping centers anymore, I dont need my insurance company denying me a liver in the future because I puchase beer on weekends for 20 years.

For those that do not know, it will come back to bite them in the ass in the future.

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vaxvms
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reply to noprivacy
I got an email saying it's OK to give out personal information to any website that wants it. It'll never be used by anyone. I got it in email so it must be true.
- John Q. Public



mod_wastrel
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reply to noprivacy
I guess they're not you. They have different values from yours. (I don't put my stuff out there, but I don't give a shit what anyone knows about me. [meaning: there's nothing important nor unique worth knowing -- anyone who wants to waste his/her time finding crap about me... more power to 'em] Of course, anyone thinking they'll be able to get any money out of me... yeah, good luck with that.)

To each his/her own. (But, you know what they say: a fool and his privacy are soon parted.)

It baffles me why anyone would care what others choose to do with their own time, their own lives, etc.
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carpetshark3
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If people wonder about why anyone would care about someone else's privacy habits - if no one cares to watch or think about what they are posting/doing, it becomes the norm and is expected of the rest of us.


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said by mod_wastrel:

It baffles me why anyone would care what others choose to do with their own time, their own lives, etc.

To make a buck?
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DrStrange
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reply to noprivacy
No comment.



Juggernaut
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No comment on your comment.

People have been told (lies) for years they have no privacy. They believed it, and quickly started to post all the nitty gritty details of life. When that happened, that's when the real data was gathered.

Welcome to the Grand Snow-job.



mod_wastrel
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reply to carpetshark3
Sorry, I don't watch "Reality TV" either.



Link Logger
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reply to noprivacy
Who says its my personal information I'm happily handing over?

Blake
(if that is even my real name)



Ted Sheckler
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reply to noprivacy
One way to look at it is like you say MILLIONS (perhaps billions) of people are involved with social networking - the addition of that many users and their personal information makes that information pretty worthless...



goalieskates
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said by noprivacy :

Now, everyone is pouring all their information out there. I don't get it. Social media services are even more creepy these days.

Have people gone nuts or getting dumber? It's baffling to me.

Ignorance and marketing. Bad stuff only happens to other people, right?


EGeezer
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said by noprivacy :

... millions of users these days who provide their personal information to the public ... Yet they do not care. Why?

Have people gone nuts or getting dumber? It's baffling to me.

I believe it's ego, not lack of education.

Too many seem to think that their every sneeze and fart is so interesting to others that they have to put it out there to a world they think actually cares. Amazingly, some other people do.


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Because 99.9% of the information we have is useless. Do I give a crap if someone knows my brand preference of toilet paper? Is it that terrible to receive ads for movies I'd like to see? The only time a problem might occur is when a search company offers a suggestion to treat STDs (or insert any other embarrassing private condition here) without an explicit search for it.


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reply to Juggernaut

said by Juggernaut:

People have been told (lies) for years they have no privacy. They believed it, and quickly started to post all the nitty gritty details of life. When that happened, that's when the real data was gathered.

Good point! It's due to marketing of industries, that're making big money on collecting and selling that data...

For them it's a gold mining extremely lucrative business. Of course they will offer you "free" mail accounts, web chatting services, forums and offer other "free" media, encouraging everyone to share all data that they have. And to make it easier, they try to spread opinion, that there is no privacy. Just socialize/share all you know about your friends and yourself with Google (or similar data-mining services). Go even further ( e.g. with Google Latitude) - let us know where you and all your friends are at any time. Share your points of interests, tell us this and tell us that... And don't worry, be happy now.
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Mele20
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reply to Thaler

said by Thaler:

Because 99.9% of the information we have is useless. Do I give a crap if someone knows my brand preference of toilet paper? Is it that terrible to receive ads for movies I'd like to see? The only time a problem might occur is when a search company offers a suggestion to treat STDs (or insert any other embarrassing private condition here) without an explicit search for it.

Oh. So it is fine with you that your wife, your employer, and your health insurance company all know that you have been cheating on your wife (or she's been cheating on you and you got the STD from her)? Or, if you are not married, that you are irresponsible about sex? You don't think just the search engine that generated that ad for you is the only entity that has the information about you that caused it to show that ad do you?

And if you did an explicit search for it, and got a prescription for treating an STD, it is ok that the search engine sells this information about you, and it is ok that the pharmacy where you fill the prescription sells this information about you? And that the FBI notes in their dossier on you the fact you have a STD and passes the information to Homeland Security because you could be more likely to be plotting against the USA since you don't respect family values and are impulsive? This is what happens when a nation gets as far as we have down the slippery slope. We have gotten there because too many think like you do ....until it is too late.
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Juggernaut
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reply to OZO
I believe a year or three ago, I read on this forum that a company was collating user data from phone numbers (cell and LL), email addies and emails, to create a massive who-knows-who database from all over the world. All courtesy of those who post personal info... about us all.

Aside from the marketing aspect, think of that in Gov terms, and how that relates to those three letter folks.


DelmarPip

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reply to noprivacy
todays teachers are busy messing with there facebooks and social site crap to teach them about privacy thats the truth



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said by Mele20:

Oh. So it is fine with you that your wife, your employer, and your health insurance company all know that you have been cheating on your wife (or she's been cheating on you and you got the STD from her)?

Isn't the more severe problem that I cheated on my wife? Or that she's cheating on me? Or a plethora of other hypotheticals that could be possible answers? Not to mention, infidelity isn't exactly uncommon these days. To have a bias against them is to have beef with like, half or more of America.

said by Mele20:

Or, if you are not married, that you are irresponsible about sex?

Oh no, I'm just like, wait, all of the rest of the population of the US? Or humans in general? That really narrows me down. Next we'll be on the lookout for a man with male genitalia.

Also, if you believe that only irresponsible people get STDs, your research is already founded on crap. Might as well assume only idiots get diabetes.

said by Mele20:

And if you did an explicit search for it, and got a prescription for treating an STD, it is ok that the search engine sells this information about you, and it is ok that the pharmacy where you fill the prescription sells this information about you?

Again, as I said above, other than medical treatment information (ie. HIPAA), I could care less that the world knows I shop at CVS at times.

said by Mele20:

And that the FBI notes in their dossier on you the fact you have a STD and passes the information to Homeland Security because you could be more likely to be plotting against the USA since you don't respect family values and are impulsive?

You think waaay too much of one man's junk. I'm pretty sure (but could be wrong) that there isn't a branch of the government dedicated to what guys are possibly doing with their appendages. If there is though, I'll give them a hint: it's either fun or stupid. Maybe both.


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reply to noprivacy
I value my privacy for many of the same reasons I value the right to trial by jury. In far too many situations in life, wrong conclusions are arrived at by stringing together details that have been only partially-presented or that are factually wrong. Only when seen in the correct context, subject to explanation and correction, can many so-called facts be understood properly. Tracking, collating, and parsing digital user data is an assumption-ridden, error-filled one-way street. It has absolutely no explanatory context attached to it and almost no provision for factual correction.

The very nature of the user-data market is to make model-based assumptions about the targeting of ads toward a user on the basis of stringing together data points purportedly linked to him. This process inherently attributes certain kinds of actions and behavior in varying degrees of liklihood to a given user, based simply on historical details of certain things that were done on his computer. As that data is increasingly used by social networks, regulators, law enforcement, and the government generally, there is a growing liklihood that one's reputation may be seen at least partly through the lens of data that has been collected about him, for better or worse and accurately or erroneously - but all without any opportunity for him to explain, provide correction, or otherwise "defend" himself.
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