Why do people not care about their privacy anymore? - Security

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OZO Premium join:2003-01-17 kudos:2	reply to Thaler Re: Why do people not care about their privacy anymore? That's right. Then let's do what is doable...
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carpetshark3 Premium join:2004-02-12 Colorado Springs, CO	reply to dave I like baseball and football. I don't eat at fast food restaurants, don't care for Gingrich, can't buy the Boston Herald, but have ignored the local rag for over 25 years. I'll record sports and use that for background noise. Otherwise it's PBS as movies and commercial TV are boring.
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 Reviews: ·DSL EXTREME	reply to OZO said by OZO: That's right. Then let's do what is doable... Well, the only thing doable here is to inform and do the "influence" route. The way to do that is to first prove harm. As a logical person, simply saying "don't do X because X is bad" does diddly for me. So far, nobody's been able to show the harm in sharing social updates. And be reasonable - if your example is someone tweeting their SSN, bank PIN, and passwords, that's too cherry-picked an example to be relevant to most. And if we can, let's skip the "tweeting sh*t about your employer from a traceable account" as well. So yeah, if someone can explain how sharing simple things like, "I ate a taco" or "I like rock music" are harmful, I'd be all ears. Just saying "because sharing is bad" simply won't do. Until there's evidence that these actions could cause me harm as an individual, I have no reason to change my actions.
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vaxvms ferroequine fan Premium join:2005-03-01 Wustah, MA Reviews: ·Charter	said by Thaler: So yeah, if someone can explain how sharing simple things like, "I ate a taco" or "I like rock music" are harmful, I'd be all ears. Just saying "because sharing is bad" simply won't do. Until there's evidence that these actions could cause me harm as an individual, I have no reason to change my actions. I've told the people I'm trying to impress that I'm a vegan. When one of them sees me tweet "I ate a taco" it's gonna cause me lots of harm. -- After Monday & Tuesday even the calendar says W.T.F.
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3	There aren't vegan tacos?
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ashrc4 Premium join:2009-02-06 australia 2 edits	reply to Thaler said by Thaler: So yeah, if someone can explain how sharing simple things like, "I ate a taco" or "I like rock music" are harmful, I'd be all ears. Just saying "because sharing is bad" simply won't do. Until there's evidence that these actions could cause me harm as an individual, I have no reason to change my actions. I guess the Phone Hacking Scandle thingy was just a propped up a bunch of sooks and could never become a target for crook employees on the take. Nah just let them waste their terabytes collecting your E-mails, URL's, Phone records and other personal info indefinately for no other purpose. P.s. Status Update :Had Taco's last night. P.P.S. trivial opinions on things don't affect stuff like jury selection...nah -- Paradigm Shift beta test pilot. "Now is the not right time to stop folding."
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StraitShoot Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak Premium join:2003-02-08 Clinton, MA kudos:1	reply to noprivacy I don't care because I don't have to. I run all Mac's now. Ipads too. And I gave Google up..
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 Reviews: ·DSL EXTREME	reply to ashrc4 said by ashrc4: I guess the Phone Hacking Scandle thingy was just a propped up a bunch of sooks and could never become a target for crook employees on the take. Unless Google's hiring its own crooks to hack its own product (to which, why bother - you have access to it already), then it's not their fault. The state collects a lot of information too, but the act of housing information alone isn't a bad thing. It just seems like a slippery slope of blame game. Holding Google responsible for people breaking an entering to steal things is like holding safe manufacturers responsible for encouraging people to lock valuables inside (to get stolen). Also, the hell kind of a jury are you serving on where someone has tacos makes or breaks a case?
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 Reviews: ·DSL EXTREME	reply to StraitShoot said by StraitShoot: I don't care because I don't have to. I run all Mac's now. Ipads too. And I gave Google up.. So...you took all your information and gave it wholesale to Apple instead of Google. I don't think that's exactly solving the whole privacy problem - you just changed names as to who gets 100% access to your data.
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ashrc4 Premium join:2009-02-06 australia	reply to Thaler said by Thaler: [ Also, the hell kind of a jury are you serving on where someone has tacos makes or breaks a case? Maybe a case against animal cruelty for say a chicken farmer where the case gets struck off because one of the jury members gets found out being deceptive in the past on whether they are vegan or not....Lawyers can/will spin just about anything for a win. -- Paradigm Shift beta test pilot. "Now is the not right time to stop folding."
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StraitShoot Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak Premium join:2003-02-08 Clinton, MA kudos:1	reply to Thaler I changed because I like Apple's way better. I switched everything to Apple.. Happier and better.. Got sick of Google and Microsoft. Not concerned in the least about privacy. Jim
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 Reviews: ·DSL EXTREME	said by StraitShoot: Got sick of Google and Microsoft. Not concerned in the least about privacy. So...you have the same problems in that your personal data is being harvested & used...but hey, it's not Google or Microsoft, so who cares? Meh, ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Los Angeles, CA kudos:3 Reviews: ·DSL EXTREME	reply to ashrc4 said by ashrc4: said by Thaler: Also, the hell kind of a jury are you serving on where someone has tacos makes or breaks a case? Maybe a case against animal cruelty for say a chicken farmer where the case gets struck off because one of the jury members gets found out being deceptive in the past on whether they are vegan or not....Lawyers can/will spin just about anything for a win. Man, in that case, they'd be doing you a favor for kicking you off the jury.
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Perspective @apdcomms.co.uk	reply to Mele20 said by Mele20: Take Gmail as an example. I want nothing to do with Gmail. I do NOT want to correspond with anyone using it because Google reads all Gmail and will build a file on me even though I don't personally have a Gmail account. So, I should just not correspond with anyone using Gmail right? That is much easier said than done. A lot of Gmail users have other email addresses but have arranged it so that ALL feed back into their Gmail account. So, I could think I was corresponding with someone whose email address is xxx@xxx.rr.com but actually that feeds into their Gmail account, and Google reads it, and builds a profile on me and KEEPS MY email FOREVER WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. So, what has happened with all these selfish Gmail users who hate privacy is that now days one cannot use email basically if they value privacy (unless they and their recipients exchange keys and encrypt the mail) because the chances of their email ending up in a Google account and Google keeping it forever, reading it, and building a profile is extremely high. You don't think I'm not going to "butt" in to others lives about this? Gmail users are RUINING email for those of us who do not want Google profiling us. When thoughtless, selfish people act without regard for others then, yeah, I will begin butting in and try to get them to see how thoughtless, selfish and short sighted they are being. Do you really think Mr Google is sat in his basement reading your personal emails, printing them out and sharing them with his friends? Do you then think Mr Google, having read your email, will then fire up his Android tracking device to see where you are? Get real... Do you think you're the only person using the Internet? What makes you feel you are so much more exciting than everyone else the first place? As an aside, if you've got something sensitive you shouldn't be using email, period.
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ashrc4 Premium join:2009-02-06 australia 1 edit	said by Perspective : Mr Google, having read your email, will then fire up his Android tracking device to see where you are? Get real... "We can provide reminders that you're going to be late for a meeting based on your location, your calendar and an understanding of what the traffic is like that day," she said." Straight from the horses mouth so to speak. You posted anon from afar..... to do what..... As an aside, if you've got something sensitive you SHOULD be ABLE TO USE email, period.....Fixed it for you. P.s. perspective you my want to use a different e-mail address next time you post. Your true colours are showing. -- Paradigm Shift beta test pilot. "Now is the not right time to stop folding."
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Mele20 Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4	reply to Perspective Where did I say I think I am "more exciting than anyone else"? What does "exciting" have to do with the subject of PRIVACY? I don't think you even have a grasp on what PRIVACY means. NO ONE/ENTITY should be reading my emails and certainly not doing so for the purpose of building a dossier on me and that is what Google is doing to EVERYONE who has GMail or communicates with someone who does. It has NOTHING to do with "sensitive" matters. I don't want Google reading ANYTHING I send in email. It is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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vaxvms ferroequine fan Premium join:2005-03-01 Wustah, MA	Uncle Sam has been scanning your email for quite a while and has built up a huge dossier on you.
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Dude111 An Awesome Dude Premium join:2003-08-04 USA kudos:10	reply to StraitShoot Very sad....... Your 1 of the many who has been dumbed down my friend... PRIVACY IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!! I bet you DID CARE about your privacy in the 80s and before!
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Perspective @KCOM.COM	reply to Mele20 Re: Why do people not care about their privacy anymore? That's a fair point, and I agree. Just for my own personal interpretation of privacy, it's that I don't want any of my information used against me. Reminders from Google seems quite a handy feature to me, and it's an automated computer, not a human doing it, so it doesn't bother me so much. I guess like has been alluded to before, this debate arises because everyone has their own definition of what privacy is to them. To some of it seems that everything you do should be kept to yourself no matter what - and that's fair enough. To me, it's not having any of my information used against me - a copy of my emails being parsed for date/time by an automated computer with the aim of providing me a feature doesn't bother me, but I understand how it might.
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