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grohgreg
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Dawson Springs, KY

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Re: New Exede customers, please post

said by hdman:

C'mon Greg, you know your making a rather LARGE assumption there. The same holds true for Cable and other "shared" resources. If ALL 8333 customers had a clear shot, and were all downloading files at the SAME time, then, we would all start to see a slow down. But we all know, thats not truly the case here.

No assuming involved. It's simple math, with a sprinkle of "we've been here before". They claim that ViaSat-1 is capable of serving one million customers. What do you figure the odds - if/when they actually even get close to that prediction - that more than 8333 customers might be downloading at the same time? Terrestrial shared broadband is afforded the luxury of expansion. Once a satellite is commissioned however, what you see is what you get.

I got my opening numbers wrong by the way, ViaSat-1 has a 140Gbps transfer rate. That translates to the first 11667 subscribers getting the full monty. But it essentially makes little difference to the eventual outcome.

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zeddlar
join:2007-04-09
Jay, OK

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Yups, unless they get a second in the works like HN did, then it is only a matter of time. Prolly will be quite a while before any problems are noticed but I think you can bank on there being problems in the future if they end with just this one till it gets packed.

DrStrangLov
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said by grohgreg:

It's simple math, with a sprinkle of "we've been here before".

"We've been here before," now, I think one should rethink it.

Where is ViaSat or even Hughes going to find the next 1/2 million customers?

I really doubt they exist...unless one can get DSL users, who want more speed,

"Right now the focus is on wireless, with the telcos pretty clearly not caring what happens in a large number of landline markets where millions of users are still clodding along at 1.5 to 3 Mbps. "

»Cable is Eating DSL's Lunch in Un-Upgraded Markets [77] comments

grohgreg
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Dawson Springs, KY

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said by DrStrangLov :

Where is ViaSat or even Hughes going to find the next 1/2 million customers?

It's pretty clear that you only read the big print on your NEXIS hits, cuz that question was asked and answered in your own post. Many of those 5 and 12 Mbps customers come from the "large number of landline markets where millions of users are still clodding along at 1.5 to 3 Mbps.." Unfortunately a lot of them won't read the fine print either, until after they're locked into a service commitment that is.

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DrStrangLov
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said by grohgreg:

Unfortunately a lot of them won't read the fine print either...

Unless hdman has a true "Unlimited" 3G cellphone, he should signup for that Satellite WiMax via ViaSat.

Many of these rural communities can't afford the big pipe, even if your rural local phone company has setup FIOS. Just several years ago, a fractional T3 at 21 mbps was about $11,000.00/month in one rural city. At $11K/month, that's a lot of money and requires at least 500 users at $20.00/month charge just for internet pipe.

Larger City Prices Here: »www.infobahn.com/researc ··· tion.htm

Fast internet is mainly a big city thing...smaller cities and rural areas very seldom see big city speeds at an affordable price. But, those big city plans tend to have restrictions on usage, from light to heavy usage.

As that article suggested, telcos are mostly not supporting DSL, they are into milking wireless users since no government price controls really exist. Hey, some folks are paying $170.00/month for phone/data plans bundled, so why mess with $19.99/month DSL. Hence, economics, due to unregulated wireless charges, is favoring growth in wireless in larger population centers, not in smaller towns and the sticks.

So, its a no brainer, if a satellite carrier can offer better speeds within similar price structures and plans, then DSL users might come aboard.

Hence, if a satellite carrier wants to compete, it has to offer a better speed...jump on board hdman.

These newer birds of ViaSat/Hughes are capable of offering better speeds, and to win over DSL users, they have to maintain good service.