stev32k Premium Member join:2000-04-27 Mobile, AL |
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Re: Need to kill a mole.By far the best way of getting rid of moles is to kill the grubs and other subterranean insects they feed on. If you apply a grub killer about twice a year the moles will be gone.
Around here we have moles and armadillos and if you don't keep the grubs killed off your lawn can look like a construction site when the two of them visit. |
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
Lurch77
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2012-Jan-28 6:53 pm
The problem is that earthworms are just as big a food source. And any healthy lawn needs those. |
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PacratOld and Cranky MVM join:2001-03-10 Cortland, OH |
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2012-Jan-28 7:06 pm
One treatment of Milky Spore lasts for years. It actually multiplies in the guts of grubs. The grubs, literally eat themselves to death. The nice thing about it, too, is that it singles out Japanese Beetle grubs, while not harming anything else, aka, beneficial earthworms. It's relatively expensive, but on a per annum basis it just keeps getting cheaper and cheaper in the long run.
Moles are insectivores. Get rid of their food source and you get rid of the moles. |
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
Lurch77
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2012-Jan-28 7:14 pm
Yes, but as I just mentioned, earthworms are their biggest food source. Killing grubs will not always work, especially if you have healthy soil and lots of worms. quote: A common example is when homeowners try to control lawn grubs and insects to reduce mole activity. However, this is often unsuccessful because the mole's primary food source is earthworms.
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stev32k Premium Member join:2000-04-27 Mobile, AL |
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said by Lurch77:The problem is that earthworms are just as big a food source. And any healthy lawn needs those. A healthy lawn does not need earthworms. They are not harmful and may be a slight benefit, but their loss is more than offset by the removal of moles. |
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If the insecticide you use does not kill the earthworms along with the grubs then either you did not use enough or you used the wrong stuff.
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PacratOld and Cranky MVM join:2001-03-10 Cortland, OH |
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Then you'll probably have to resort to "search & destroy" tactics and bash them with a shovel or tamper as you track their travels under the sod. You can try to "flush" them into one area, but established tunnels are difficult to fill up with water. Another method is to attach a garden hose to the exhaust of a small engine with a full tank of gas, stick the other end of the hose into a tunnel and start the engine and let it just idle for an hour or so. Fills the tunnels with carbon monoxide, since it's heavier than air. |
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Cheese Premium Member join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL |
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what exactly is that? |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD |
sk1939
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2012-Jan-28 9:01 pm
A device with an ignitor at the end that injects propane and oxygen into the tunnels, and then lights the mixture to blow the tunnels apart (killing the moles in the process). |
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2012-Jan-29 12:52 am
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said by sk1939:Bleach will also kill the roots of your lawn, and will poison your water if you have a well. it'll sink down below the roots, never had a problem before using it on yellow jacket wasp nests underground. and also, it will NOT poison a well, water companies add chlorine to the water, and people that have wells add bleach to them to kill bacteria, and keep the water clear. you'd have to add quite a LOT of bleach to a well to poison it, and the chlorine only lasts a fairly short time anyway. |
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said by Lurch77:I want a mole dead. Why do you want them dead? A healthy lawn needs moles, and moles needs a healthy lawn. When they make a mound in my lawn, I just spread the dirt and smooth it out, and chalk it up as a free aeration.... |
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jed Premium Member join:2001-07-06 Alberta, Can |
to Lurch77
A farmer where I live, built his own version of the Banger, but instead of propane/oxygen, he uses Anhydrous Ammonia. Works well to get rid of subterranean pests, and as a side benefit, fertilizes the soil! |
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
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said by aurgathor:said by Lurch77:I want a mole dead. A healthy lawn needs moles...... No, it doesn't. You're not the same guy that told me to plant clover in my lawn last year, are you? |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320
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2012-Jan-29 10:58 am
said by Lurch77:said by aurgathor:said by Lurch77:I want a mole dead. A healthy lawn needs moles...... No, it doesn't. You're not the same guy that told me to plant clover in my lawn last year, are you? LOL, that's a funny suggestion. |
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macsierra8Baby Newfoundland Premium Member join:2003-11-30 Minden, NV
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Here's the answer... My suggestion would be to train your kids or even the neighbors to kill the moles. Amazon has the cool tool you need right here. It's called Whac-A-Mole and it's only 65 bucks! Comes complete with 4 Mallets, instructions in English and Spanish and sound clues are included free with a bonus sound for killing a mole.. Features 4 moles with attitude! It's great for kids reflexes, hand/eye coordination etc.. » www.amazon.com/Hasbro-40 ··· 001GDP00Disclaimer, be careful of animal rights folks, I found this in the reviews section. (below) "I never heard of this pathetic excuse for a game until my mother-in-law tried to give it to my 4-year-old. I don't know what she was thinking. It's going right back to the store. This toy encourages violence, cruelty, and the idea that animals don't feel pain, and that it's okay and even funny to hit them on the head with a mallet." Comment on the above review: "I nearly pee'd my pants reading this review, thanks for the great laugh, I was literally crying!!! Seriously, it's a plastic mole! OMG!!! What's next, like someone else suggested banning Candyland for fear of tooth decay or Hungry Hippo because it may be offensive to overweight people? WOW, WOW, and WOW!!! I'm forsure buying this after reading this! Btw, you should see what moles have done to my garden, you'd want to wack one too!" LOL |
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rockotman...Blown On The Steel Breeze Premium Member join:2000-08-06 DSotM
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Instead of using a shovel or a tamper, if you have any old netbooks laying around that are no longer working because, say, someone dumped water in them, you can use those to bludgeon the critters with. |
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I would suggest feeding it disinformation. Usually if the take goes bad, its handler will burn it.
Or you could make it look as though its a double agent- increase its salary disproportionately, and then the FSB should clean up the problem for you. |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320
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2012-Jan-29 10:07 pm
said by ryusoma:I would suggest feeding it disinformation. Usually if the take goes bad, its handler will burn it.
Or you could make it look as though its a double agent- increase its salary disproportionately, and then the FSB should clean up the problem for you. LOL. |
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Here, you need some of this to really do the trick. |
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Doctor OldsI Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium Member join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 |
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2:26 looks best.
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2012-Jan-31 9:22 am
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Take a small/medium potato, cut out a plug and hollow out a space in the center. Fill with a teaspoon or so of rat poison, replace the plug, and bury the potato where the mole is active. |
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I have two boxers that keep our yard mole free. Had one problem about 5 yrs ago and they took care of it for me. After that I'm the only one out of 4 or 5 houses that do not have mole issues. |
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c4junk Premium Member join:2004-05-08 Orlando, FL |
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I saw an old article that said to bury an old (deep) coffee can in a mole run and cover over with a board, the mole will fall into the can and can't climb out. I have also put a hose up tailpipe and into a tunnel and let car idle for 10 min- seemed to work, but that run was right next to drive. |
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Lurch77 Premium Member join:2001-11-22 Green Bay, WI |
Lurch77
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2012-Feb-19 7:56 pm
Again, thanks for all the replies and conversation. In the end, my dog determined I had voles, not moles, and took care of the problem, or at least some of it, for me.
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nunyaLXI 483 MVM join:2000-12-23 O Fallon, MO |
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2012-Feb-19 8:31 pm
Good boy! |
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John Galt6Forward, March Premium Member join:2004-09-30 Happy Camp |
to Lurch77
More work here at the coast if your doggie is up for it... |
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Yay terrier! |
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD |
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Oh that's nice. At least you don't have the long tunnel runs. |
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John Galt6Forward, March Premium Member join:2004-09-30 Happy Camp
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said by sk1939:Oh that's nice. At least you don't have the long tunnel runs. That's actually the neighbors house. I had them at my place, which is close to an acre. I made a bubbler out of my small shop vac that uses ammonia and I pump that down the tunnels. Pretty much puts an end to the problem... |
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C'mon, Lurch. I would expect that you know this requires a professional effort. Those varmint's are tough critters. |
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