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Chillin
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Johnson City, TN

New Build - Thoughts?

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So I haven't built a new computer in a few years now, and recently just hired so I am passing my computer to a employee soon, so I need a new one. Whats your thoughts on this build?

Needs:
Powerful processor
Lots of ram
SSD as main (240gb is smallest I will go), data on a separate.
Graphics Card is not super important but I do want it to do 2560x1600 for 2 displays (I run dual 30's at this res)
Room for more hd's.

Coming from:
i7 920
12gb of ram
120gb ssd
few data drives
evga 250
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chmod
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Lockport, IL

I haven't build a new system in a while either. After looking it over the only thing I was going to suggest was a bigger case. After looking at the specs that thing is pretty solid, but is it enough for future add-ons? That was my only "gripe" that build is a dream build imo.
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matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY

reply to Chillin
why are you buying 1366 old dead socket,
what is the use of the pc.



Octavean
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New York, NY
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reply to Chillin
Yeah, you'll probably be better off going with a newer LGA1155 Sandy Bridge or LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E platform.

Since you seem to want a lot of RAM, the LGA2011 platform will typically have more DIMM slots (up to 8 slots quadrant cannel) while the LGA1155 platform typically has up to 4 DIMM slots.

As for CPU:

Core i7 2600 (locked) LGA1155
Core i7 2600k (unlocked) LGA1155
Core i7 2700k (unlocked) LGA1155

Or

Core i7 3930k (unlocked) LGA2011
Core i7 3820 (partial unlock)



Chillin
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Johnson City, TN

reply to matt5

said by matt5:

why are you buying 1366 old dead socket,
what is the use of the pc.

I am a graphic designer, need a lot of ram/horsepower.

As far as using the 1366 socket, thats my purpose of posting to start with really to know what I should or shouldn't be using.

2011 stuff looks like a lot of $$$$$. Is 1155 better?
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Chillin
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reply to Octavean

said by Octavean:

Yeah, you'll probably be better off going with a newer LGA1155 Sandy Bridge or LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E platform.

Can you recommend a good value proc? I would want at least a quad core, do they have 6 cores in those yet that are not overly priced? Are those processors hyper threaded as well or?
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Chillin
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reply to Chillin
Would this one be better than the i7 960 1366?

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19115071
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Octavean
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If you need a lot of RAM then then LGA2011 platform is yore best bet. The Core i7 3930k is presumably ~$555 which isn't too bad IMO for a 6 core 12 thread Intel CPU. You probably couldn't find one for sale now anyway since they are in such short supply.

The Core i7 3820 is a quad core 8 thread CPU for the LGA2011 platform due out soon and it will supposidly cost less then ~$300 USD.

So if you wait for that you should be able to have the RAM density you want with a lower priced yet powerful CPU.

Although the LGA1155 platform is powerful too. A Core i7 2600 is more powerful then. The Core i7 950 you listed but the motherboards only have up to 4 DIMM slots. Its about as powerful as a Core i7 980x for a third the price.



Chillin
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Johnson City, TN

The boards still allow for 32gb, thats pretty good, I can live with that. I am running on (and out of) about 12gb now, so 32gb will be a nice jump I would think.

So over all that would be a better move? The Proc I posted and say:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13131700

and 2 sets of:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20233246

Thoughts?
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matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY

reply to Chillin
Okay, programs being used and the like would have been nice but...

»www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/100?vs=287

2600k beats the 950
you can get 32 gigs of ram on 1155

You can wait for 2011 cpus that you want to pay for.

k = you can overclock alot non k = you can't as much.
k = intel hd 3000 non k = intel hd 2000 IGPU



Chillin
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Johnson City, TN

reply to Chillin
Tons of Photoshop/Illustrator, both with very large files gigs at a time even.

That helps, so I will go 1155 then. The 2600 seems like the ticket then right?

(not interested in overclocking)

I can live with 32gb of ram.
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matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY

Depends on you, 2011 will have more powerful cpus (be it at a higher price) and will support more ram.

1155 is pretty much what you see now (with ivy bridge coming out in a few months).

the 2700k is clocked a hair higher IMHO not worth it over a 2600.

It is your choice 2011 I think is faster on photoshop by up to 20% but it costs $600 for the CPU... so I mean, your choice you know what you want and how much 20% or so is worth + more ram slots (I would check benchmarks before deciding)



Chillin
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Johnson City, TN

I don't really wanna spring for $600 proc.

If I was going to do that wouldn't a dual proc Xeon board be the way to go? I priced a full system out with that at around 2500 but that's more than I want to spend. I would like to be around 16-1800.
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Chillin
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reply to Chillin
Changing to the 2600 and such put me at about 2100. Whew.....

I guess I should look at some ways to cut some of this out.
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reply to Chillin
You don't need that high a wattage SMPS unless you are going with 2, rather than 1, explicitly high end video cards. A 600 Watt unit from Seasonic, Silverstone, Corsair, PCP&C, and a few others would be fine. That will save you a SMALL amount...

Just make certain, when you pick out video card that you look to see what PEG connectors it uses and have the SMPS have those connectors, as units vary when it comes to PEG connectors (PCI Express Graphics).
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reply to Chillin
You are buying at the high end of 1155 and I don't really see the need. You are giving up the advantages of 1155. I would consider a z68 motherboard. There is no advantage to p67 and, with z68, you have the option of quick sync graphics support if you decide you want it. You don't need to spend $280 on a motherboard. The very expensive motherboards are not immune to problems, just as the midrange aren't. There are a number of asus z68 boards in the $150-180 range, have a look at those. They are still in the upper midrange to lower high end.

I would question the need for a 560 graphics card. Do your monitors support displayport?

Given the high price of hard drives right now you could reduce your drive to a 1TB unless you are sure that you need the extra space in the next 6-12 months. I wouldn't buy a lot more space than you need right now.

You chose a nice power supply but you don't need anything like 850 watts so you might consider one the smaller corsairs.

Give us an updated listing so we can see why your 2600 setup is so much more costly than your first listing.



Chillin
No i7, no care.
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Johnson City, TN

I listed the new mobo Ram and proc above. I am open to suggestions on savings. Just so I have 32gb or more max ram, I do want a couple of ,ore saga 6gb ports as well.

I would post what I have but im on a iPad right now.
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Chillin
No i7, no care.
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Johnson City, TN

reply to Chillin

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Here is where I am at with adjustments. Thoughts?


Octavean
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Looks good.

However, a Z68 based LGA1155 motherboard would probably be a more common choice. The Z68 chipset is basically an update of the P67 chipset. There is also little to no cost difference in many cases so there is essentially no reason to choose a P67 over a Z68.

The Z68 chipset also makes use of the Intel HD 3000 / 2000 video subsystem. Are you sure you need a video card?


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The difference between a Z68 and a P67 are pretty minuscule for your usage I would claim since your not likely to be using Quick Sync unless you do any kind of video work.

If he needs a graphics card. If he's serious about being a graphics designer, then yes.

I would say skip the Fermi card if you plan to do any kind of serious work on this system, and invest in a workstation card like a FireGL or a Quadro which would work better with CS5. The later versions of Photoshop allow you to use GPU power to boost render time for large files (by quite a bit), but it has to be on a list of supported cards, most of which are workstation cards.

Also, make sure that you have SATA cables since neither your DVD or Hard drive come with said cables.


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