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 | 2Mbps DSL plan... Trouble for video streaming? I don't stream a lot of video, but here's a few I've viewed in the last few months. My 5M DSL (full-speed, good line) could play most of these, with some rare stuttering or buffering.
Does switching to "full-screen" switch you to a higher-speed stream? Yes? No? Depends on the source? Depends on the player used? This could be important, because along with 2M download, the plan cap will probably be 25GB!
If I downgrade to a 2M download DSL plan, which of these are liable to give me troubles? Let's assume I am syncing at 2496/800, on a good quality line, and the line is not shared with anyone else. Thx!
-Youtube, 3 qualities? Is there HD now? -Netflix Canada, 3 qualities I believe? -CBC sports, hockey (GO Jets!) -CBC sports, curling! And Yes, I do! -CRTC Hearings! Always fun! -TSN Hockey. -NASCAR RaceBuddy. | |  grunze510 join:2009-02-14 Cote Saint-Luc, QC kudos:1 | It depends on the player. Youtube has a little number in the corner (240p, 360p, 480p, 720p, 1080p) showing the quality. It usually bumps it up to at least 480p when you set the video to fullscreen. | |  | reply to jasmo34 said by jasmo34:Does switching to "full-screen" switch you to a higher-speed stream? Yes? No? Depends on the source? Depends on the player used? This could be important, because along with 2M download, the plan cap will probably be 25GB! I don't think it boosts the speed, but check with the website. The additional stuttering you see at fullscreen is probably your video card being pushed harder, because it's manipulating more pixels. Can you get updated drivers for it? One trick I use is switching to a lower resolution. This gets you fullscreen with fewer pixels, and less load on the CPU+GPU.
True story. My main machine is a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with a generic onboard Intel GPU. Maybe I'm cheap, but I want to run it into the ground before throwing it away. I run Gentoo linux connected to 5 mbits ADSL (soon to be 6 mbits, I hope). The standard i686 install uses generic i686 code that'll run on ancient i686's. Right after the install, it could not handle streaming 1080i TV from my antenna capture box, or the lowest NHL GameCenter Live speed. After I rebuilt Gentoo ("emerge system" followed by "emerge world") it handles NHL GameCenter Live and 1080i TV from my HDHomerun. This is because Gentoo allows you to compile the OS optimized to your CPU, not a lowest-common-denominator setting.
If you intend to do live streaming, I think 2 mbits is too slow, regardless of your cap. Even if the website has a "lowspeed mode", the video quality will suck.
Speaking of NHL GameCenter Live... Go Jets Go. I grew up in Winnipeg. I'm in Toronto now, so there aren't that many blackouts of Jets games for me. | | |
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1 edit | reply to jasmo34 I've got 2 dsl lines (1x TSI, 1x Bell) coming into the house, on a good day they're both syncing at 2mbit and paired up into a 4mbit MLPPP bundle.
Lately, the teksavvy line got crapped up and puts out +/- .75mbit, slowing the bundle.
So, like a diseased limb, I had to cut that link off for now. Running a 2mbit link, I still watch netflix without issue. Youtube re-buffers constantly above 480, but everything else is okay. | |  | reply to Walter Dnes said by Walter Dnes:I don't think it boosts the speed, but check with the website. In youtube's case, the "old" player interface with the 360/480/720/1080 select icon did automatically switch from 360 to 480 when going to full-screen if you did not manually pick/force a resolution yourself, not sure what the new one with the auto-select icon does.
A lot of stuff is streaming at 2Mbps these days so a 2Mbps sync is getting borderline at best. | |  grunze510 join:2009-02-14 Cote Saint-Luc, QC kudos:1 | said by InvalidError:said by Walter Dnes:I don't think it boosts the speed, but check with the website. In youtube's case, the "old" player interface with the 360/480/720/1080 select icon did automatically switch from 360 to 480 when going to full-screen if you did not manually pick/force a resolution yourself, not sure what the new one with the auto-select icon does. A lot of stuff is streaming at 2Mbps these days so a 2Mbps sync is getting borderline at best. I think it's the same, they just changed how it looks. | |  | said by Walter Dnes: ... One trick I use is switching to a lower resolution. This gets you fullscreen with fewer pixels, and less load on the CPU+GPU. True story. My main machine is a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with a generic onboard Intel GPU. ... Hah, I'm running older stuff than that! Lots of "trailing edge technology" here. I do have some newer stuff, on the shelf, awaiting assembly.
I'm still using a very nice 22" CRT @ 1400 x 1050 as my main monitor, via onboard Intel graphics (hey, the CRT heats my basement). As per your logic, I sometimes do change down to 1024 x 768 or 800 x 600 if I'm going to watch an entire streamed game or movie full-screen; it has to be less work for the components to move the pixels around. (yes, I do also have an LCD monitor, and other CRT's too)
Netflix is the only thing I have ever 'joined' for streaming; everything else is freebies, and is usually only tried and watched when what I want is not available on my cable TV package. NASCAR was the worst out of what I listed; I didn't mind the stutters or pauses so much, but if the connection was lost completely, and you had to reload the page, you got all the "one-time" startup-ads again!
I'm just hoping 2M will still be fast enough for CBC hockey, and curling! 
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Hey... I'm fiddling with a new wireless N300 router, and as I was browsing through the advanced controls, I came across a "Traffic Control" section that can be configured (with Ingress and Egress limits). This is without getting into the more complicated 'traffic control rules' section.
Can I simulate a slower internet profile speed using Traffic Control in my own router?
My profile is currently 6016/800. I will set Ingress to 2496, and leave egress at 800, to simulate an actual 2496/800 profile. (like the 2Mbps plan I may be downgrading to at TSI).
Hey, it seems to work; my speedtest came back 2016/653, instead of 5089/665. I must test some streaming, to see if I can live with 2M, before I make the possible switch.
Is this speed reduction via my own Traffic Control in the router an accurate simulation of a slower line, or am I causing incoming bits to be discarded and then retransmitted, and generally causing traffic discombobulation? | |  | reply to jasmo34 I'll trade you your 6M line for my 2M line 
All I can get is a crappy 2M line here, and all I do is stream from networks sites. *MOST* of the time, it's issue free (but my line is very noisy!)
What you can't do is run 2 streams, or surf the web at the same time. That will cause you some buffering / freezing.
Personally, I would want to have something higher than 2M so I can do more then 1 thing at a time... Your wants/needs may be different... -- Remember, the fellow who said, If it aint broke - dont fix it! really meant maintain it.
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