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StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
reply to fltelman

Re: 45 MB internet service

well why would ATT settle for the "just in case" provider? I don't care if they roll out ftth or if they use a flying razorback pig to deliver internet. If the latency is good and the speed is better than the competition ... people will buy it.



Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
united state

Latency and speed good compared to the competition? Interleaving, 24 megs? What is the competition here, 3g and satellite internet??!!


WhyMe420
Premium
join:2009-04-06
kudos:1

Where AT&T competes and wins for me over the alternative (Charter) the lack of caps. Latency is still decent enough to not matter in my online gaming. 24 Mbps uncapped is far better than 100Mbps capped any day of the week. As long as AT&T is uncapped, and the competition is capped, I will stick with 24 Mbps forever even if I can get 1Gbps for $5 a month from Charter.


StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
reply to Metatron2008

I meant IF att can deliver good latency / speed (which they dont) people will buy it.

I'm speaking in future terms here. Two years until upgrades seems like a business killer to me.


StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA
Reviews:
·LUS Fiber
reply to WhyMe420

said by WhyMe420:

Where AT&T competes and wins for me over the alternative (Charter) the lack of caps. Latency is still decent enough to not matter in my online gaming. 24 Mbps uncapped is far better than 100Mbps capped any day of the week. As long as AT&T is uncapped, and the competition is capped, I will stick with 24 Mbps forever even if I can get 1Gbps for $5 a month from Charter.

Well ... I'm sure charter will give you the option of more data. Id gladly take 250gb or 500gb/month @ 1gig speeds over 24mbit and never being able to watch tv, use the dvr, or even use the phone ... at least and expect low latency @ full speeds.

Now if ATT can offer 50mbit / 10-15mbit they would satisfy even those on the fence ... but apparently by the time they "might" be able to offer that in 2 years cable will be ready to offer eoc over cable or docis4 and will be in a prime position to do whatever is necessary to retain/attract even more business from ATT.

Whats really going on ... ATT has been and will continue to play catch up. What they will release in 2 years time hey actually need today. I guess they are at least 2 years behind cable then ... and seem to be gambling everything on this vectoring.

One question ..what if it doesn't work? There is a very strong possibility it wont. I seem to remember pair bonding would be the ticket ... NO. Why would this vectoring be any different? Bonding is an apparent EPIC FAIL ..otherwise they would be rolling that shit out as fast as people ask for it. I mean why wouldn't they... especially when it means the difference in attracting/retaining customers or them leaving for cable or FOIS ...or even wireless in some cases.

WhyMe420
Premium
join:2009-04-06
kudos:1

said by StLCardsFan:

said by WhyMe420:

Where AT&T competes and wins for me over the alternative (Charter) the lack of caps. Latency is still decent enough to not matter in my online gaming. 24 Mbps uncapped is far better than 100Mbps capped any day of the week. As long as AT&T is uncapped, and the competition is capped, I will stick with 24 Mbps forever even if I can get 1Gbps for $5 a month from Charter.

Well ... I'm sure charter will give you the option of more data. Id gladly take 250gb or 500gb/month @ 1gig speeds over 24mbit and never being able to watch tv, use the dvr, or even use the phone ... at least and expect low latency @ full speeds.

No doubt U-verse TV sucks, but I don't have a problem with using the phone (POTS & Cell Phone,) nor watching TV or using my (multiple) DVRs, that's the beauty of having satellite TV instead of U-verse TV. Of course I wouldn't expect certain people such as yourself to care about data caps, but I couldn't live with such low caps. I pay for my Internet connection so that I can use it anytime I want. I don't pay for it only to worry about going over my cap. With cable and their caps, faster speeds are worthless as all that does is increase your chance of going over the cap ON TOP OF already paying a higher price.

StLCardsFan

join:2011-06-06
Lafayette, LA

yeah i cant say i agree with one flat cap regardless of speed. I think faster tiers should also include more data or even better ... no caps.



Nuckfuts
Premium
join:2003-10-18
Joliet, IL

Having Caps is a pure money grab. They have been monitoring their networks for years and see how much usage is going on. Between legal and illegal downloading, lol, netflix and the other million streaming services, online gaming, etc., etc., etc., their reasons are BS. Comcast on the other hand I do not understand. Why would you attempt or just shut someone off. Do they not realize that in future years to come 250GB is not gonna cut it. If AT&T wants to compete with slower speeds I agree, they need to stay away from caps.


WhyMe420
Premium
join:2009-04-06
kudos:1

said by Nuckfuts:

Having Caps is a pure money grab. They have been monitoring their networks for years and see how much usage is going on. Between legal and illegal downloading, lol, netflix and the other million streaming services, online gaming, etc., etc., etc., their reasons are BS. Comcast on the other hand I do not understand. Why would you attempt or just shut someone off. Do they not realize that in future years to come 250GB is not gonna cut it. If AT&T wants to compete with slower speeds I agree, they need to stay away from caps.

Well the thing about Comcast/Charter/etc. is, cable Internet has fiber nodes that are shared between neighborhoods/subdivisions. The idea is that if everyone is downloading wide-open then an oversold node will become congested. However, that's still a BS excuse as all that means is that Comcast can gain more profit by overselling nodes without upgrading fiber networks. Then they can promise out-of-this-world speeds that you can only use occasionally, out of the entire month, all the while still having congestion on nodes in which people can't even get the speeds they pay for.

ERIC8585

join:2012-02-03
Pleasant Hill, CA
reply to Metatron2008

The problem with Cable, at least Shitcast, is their "Anyroom DVR" functionality and guide software is garbage. Not to mention their bandwidth throttling and horrible customer service.



Nuckfuts
Premium
join:2003-10-18
Joliet, IL
reply to WhyMe420

That has been Comcast's problem around my area since I can remember. That is why I never went with them because of the shared-node BS. One good thing about AT&T for me so far since I have had them (since '02) is my speeds have always been consistent and I get what I am paying for and not dropping out because half the neighborhood is downloading donkey porn.


ERIC8585

join:2012-02-03
Pleasant Hill, CA
reply to Metatron2008

»www.pcworld.com/article/156447/c···ogs.html