| Three router solution - Take 2 Question This is definitely a complex setup. I have some questions about it:
The guide says to provide static assignments to the STBs as shown in the actiontec. Now if I am using the default IP address subnet of 192.168.0.1 and my STB gets IP address of 192.168.0.100 and so forth, can I forward the respective ports from my primary router to 192.168.0.x addresses if my primary router IP is on a different subnet (192.168.1.x)? I notice the STB ignores the actiontec's DHCP assignment rules: I have the actiontec set to start assigning addresses from 192.168.1.3, but whenever I connect and power on a STB, the first STB gets 192.168.1.100, instead of 192.168.1.3. I have a server that is currently being static-ed 192.168.1.100, so the STBs need to be on a different address. Can I static IP my STBs on the actiontec router? |
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 birdfeedrPremium,MVM
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Warwick, RI
kudos:5 | said by anonymousse :I have a server that is currently being static-ed 192.168.1.100, so the STBs need to be on a different address.
Your easiest solution may be to change your server address.
IIRC, you may be able to change the STB DHCP range setting under My Network / Network Connections / Network (Home/Office) / Settings. Scroll down to the "IP Address Distribution According to DHCP Option 60 (Vendor Class Identifier)" section to change the range start. I do not have an STB connected, and I forget the options that show up there. You'll need to unplug the STB power from the wall after the change. Wait 30 seconds, then plug it back in. |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | reply to anonymousse
The Actiontec has two DHCP scopes. One of which you can change. The second for the STBs from 100 to 150 you can not change. You need to move your server.
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Let's say the actiontec is using 192.168.0.1 subnet (which is the factory default subnet), will it assign the STB 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x address? If it uses 192.168.0.x subnet, can I still forward the ports correctly even though my primary router is 192.168.1.x subnet? If it can, then I don't have to mess with my server's IP settings. |
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 nycdavePremium,MVM
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Melville, NY
kudos:7 | Actiontec (and all Verizon routers) default to 192.168.1.1.... |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | reply to anonymousse
said by anonymousse :Let's say the actiontec is using 192.168.0.1 subnet (which is the factory default subnet) As nycdave  pointed out that is incorrect.
said by anonymousse :will it assign the STB 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x address? If you assign the Actiontec LAN subnet to 192.168.0.x, it will assign 192.168.0.x addresses for both DHCP scopes.
said by anonymousse :If it uses 192.168.0.x subnet, can I still forward the ports correctly even though my primary router is 192.168.1.x subnet? No. You can't port forward to a different subnet.
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Cool. Thanks for clearing it up. So I need to have all routers on the same subnet. I would have the actiontec as primary router and allow it to generate all the proper forwarding rules, and then copy all those rules to my primary router right? |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | said by anoymousse :I would have the actiontec as primary router and allow it to generate all the proper forwarding rules, and then copy all those rules to my primary router right?
No. In the three router solution, your router is primary. The Actiontec "thinks" it's primary because of the IP address provided by the third router.
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| Sorry, I meant use the actiontec as primary just to get the forwarding rules from it, then swap my custom router for primary. I have to get everything (remote dvr and caller ID) working with actiontec as primary first right? If I don't connect the actiontec as primary, I won't get a list of port forwarding rules.
Did something change in the way remote DVR and caller ID works? I previously had the LAN-TO-LAN setup and I had remote DVR and caller ID on my MVDVR. Then a couple weeks ago, I had to fix an electrical problem and turned off the outlet to the fios ONT, but it was on battery backup, so i am not sure why remote DVR and Caller ID broke? I was able to get RDVR and CID working again after setting the actiontec as primary temporarily and swapping it out with my custom router. But it stopped working for good a few days afterwards. |
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watice
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New York, NY | I'm really not sure if anythings changed, but there's a whole thread dedicated to figuring that stuff out. I've had my Remote DVR working with only 2 routers without any problems in the past, and have some issues with the 1.9 IMG, but currently have it working with only 2 routers as well.
The issue that comes up is the STBs will occasionally (about once a day, sometimes less) stop responding to pings, and break remotedvr/VOD. An actiontec reboot always fixes it. Still haven't narrowed down why this is happening, or a good solution, but as it seems i'm in the minority in using a two router setup, this probably isn't commonplace. |
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| said by watice:I'm really not sure if anythings changed, but there's a whole thread dedicated to figuring that stuff out. I've had my Remote DVR working with only 2 routers without any problems in the past, and have some issues with the 1.9 IMG, but currently have it working with only 2 routers as well.
The issue that comes up is the STBs will occasionally (about once a day, sometimes less) stop responding to pings, and break remotedvr/VOD. An actiontec reboot always fixes it. Still haven't narrowed down why this is happening, or a good solution, but as it seems i'm in the minority in using a two router setup, this probably isn't commonplace.
This is probably what is happening in my case as well. I know it did work with the two router method. But seems like only recently it started breaking after a few days. Before, it would for weeks on end without ever breaking. |
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said by More Fiber:said by anoymousse :I would have the actiontec as primary router and allow it to generate all the proper forwarding rules, and then copy all those rules to my primary router right?
No. In the three router solution, your router is primary. The Actiontec "thinks" it's primary because of the IP address provided by the third router. Does my router have to clone the MAC address of the actiontec? Can I just use my own router's MAC address? |
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More FiberPremium,MVM
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West Chester, PA
kudos:18 | said by anonymousse :Does my router have to clone the MAC address of the actiontec? No.
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| In the event of a power outage where the ONT completely loses power and the WAN IP address changes, do the port forwarding rules originally on the actiontec become invalid? Or do I just have to change the IP on the secondary router (and thus the assigned IP to the actiontec) to reflect the same WAN IP my primary router has? Will the port forwarding rules still work as is? |
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Since all the necessary ports are being forwarded to the AT router and it thinks that it is primary, can Verizon perform support with it (ie pinging STBs, requesting info from STBs, etc) without having to physically change the AT to be primary router? |
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