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matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY

reply to psafux

Re: [hard drive] Won't initialize. CRC error

Again just because it no longer works does not mean the data is destroyed (you could have broken one little trace on the PCB)... if someone took out the flash memory, and tried to read from it... they likely could (I will admit, I do not know as much about flashed based storage as HDD storage)

Again nothing but 1's and 0's... The average person... yes again, useless... someone with the know how... likely can get stuff off...


psafux
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said by matt5:

Again just because it no longer works does not mean the data is destroyed



Well aware.


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said by signmeuptoo:

What do we do with SSDs to erase them if they fail?

Because of wear-leveling algorithms and the way speeds are attained by parallel read/write (an internal RAID 0 kinda thing), a specific file would have its bits scattered across the whole unit. If the mapping of where these bits are located is damaged, it might not be possible to recover any usable data. Moreover, many SSD use encryption, making recovery even more problematic and reportedly impossible in many cases I've read about.

Combine this with the fact that there are a number of controllers out there with many iterations of firmware. It is really not an easy process to recover data from a damaged SSD where the owner WANTS to facilitate recovery.

Therefore, if you are an owner that wants to ELIMINATE recovery potential, I don't think you have to do very much.

Heh, a hammer in this case is very much the best way to go here. Cracking the memory modules would certainly eliminate all hope of recovery, even from the best-funded, most motivated agency on the planet.
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signmeuptoo
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I saw people saying to soak the platters in draino, and people saying to burn them. I'm not that paranoid though, I just don't want someone to steal my personal information and ID.

I'm not worried about a forensic team, I don't have anything to hide from them.

But with that said, our privacy does seem to be eroding and when I see how less savvy people get raked over the coals by hackers, well...

I was helping in a computer room with people that are totally clueless with computers, a guy thought the F keys were the number keys and couldn't understand why a password needed to be secure. Nice guy, but I'm glad I am not him. I am no genius, but thank goodness I am not totally clueless, I feel for such people.
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05451874

join:2012-01-18
Worcester, MA

reply to matt5

said by matt5:

Well I thought you could not degauss an hdd but I guess I am wrong.

You've been able to degauss a hard drive since the dawn given you have a powerful enough magnet. They sell hard drive degaussers. Sometimes you can find someone who has one in your area and get them to do it for little to nothing.

Another option is take a trip to the hardware store with the drive and use one of their big magnets. For the price of $15 you could even buy it if you had the need for one.

»www.harborfreight.com/retrieving···905.html

matt5

join:2001-10-06
Lagrangeville, NY

So right until you linked a harbor freight magnet that does not spec how many Gauss it is!

anyway, a drill press will pretty well hammer the drive as far as the average person goes... 3 holes and you are done (pretty much what some PC recycling places do to "destroy" the hdd and data.)


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