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trying to relearn intel

Re: [My Review] trying to relearn intel

reply to jchambers28
You pay money for another feature and stronger graphics? Shocker.

reply to jchambers28
$30 for an unlocked i5-2500K CPU was a no-brainer for me, especially considering the i7 was $100 more.

reply to jchambers28
When I bought my i7, the difference between locked and unlocked was $15, roughly 5%. It didn't seem like a terribly high overclocking tax, especially if I get more than 5% more performance out of it.

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Re: trying to relearn intel

reply to jchambers28
Huh?

Most Intel CPUs have "locked" multipliers. That's actually somewhat of a misnomer - you can adjust the multiplier on these but only in one direction: down. IOW if you have a 9x chip you could run at 8x for example. Of course this depends on BIOS support which Intel does not control. (unless you buy only Intel motherboards) But that does not mean these chips cannot be overclocked. We do exactly what you said - increase the FSB speed and change other parameters as necessary. The success of this depends on a lot of factors including the quality of your other components. (RAM, motherboard, cooling)

The CPUs with the unlocked multipliers are the "X" versions, which cost more - often a lot more. These let you set whatever multiplier you want. Same caveats apply as above, whether or not you will get a successful overclock.

In my case, I'm running an E6850 which is 3.0 GHz stock, but I have it overclocked to 3.6 GHz on air. That's a nice 20% improvement basically for free.

reply to jchambers28
The newest Intel platform Sandy Bridge is not designed to have the 'base clock' changed much because there are other clocks based on this that can't deviate far from spec like sata and pcie. The platform is designed to OC with the multiplier.

reply to jchambers28
i've seen a Intel I7 3930K overclocked to 5.0GHz by just upping the multiplier to 50

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Came here to troll OP, have to fix everyone elses fail first =(

First off all intel CPU's can be overclocked, yep... all of them. All cpus have turbo, so all cpus can run at LEAST the max turbo speed on all cores... so no, you can not only go down. Who cares about cpus that are 5 years old (and never had a K sku)

Next, the new intel design removed the FSB as we knew it, and linked all the buses to one clock generator (by removing the north bridge), this clock generator runs the clocks for all the other system buses. So say your sata ports are clocked at 100mhz, under the old system, that clock generator was separate from the CPUs FSB generator, you could change the FSB and not change the sata clock. Now if you overclock the baseclock... you are overclocking the sata ports, pci-e bus.... etc... This is why it is said NOT to change it, as how do you know when you start getting bad data from the sata port?

Now as for the OP...

Buy your lower performing AMD then if you do not want to pay another $15 for overclocking. You can google ALL this info you asked, you are not trying to relearn intel you are trying to bash them with "amd allows free overclocking" amd allows you free, try to get up to stock intel speeds. lol.

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reply to jchambers28
Dont forget your Intel overclocking plan:
»click.intel.com/tuningplan/

lol

Dont for get Ivy Bridge is around April. With the 3D Tri gate.

reply to Wily_One
Yep EE's were unlocked but you could still OC FSB on that platform so an unlocked multi was not needed...

»www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gam···-10.html

rofl the pent g630 BEAT the FX cpus.

Ya amd better give you free unlocked multis rofl. While at it ask for the CPU for free too... haha.

"With the sub-$100 Pentiums performing so well, Intel's $125 Core i3-2100 easily beats more expensive Phenom II and FX models. And the $190 Core i5-2400 dominates the sub-$200 landscape without challenge, really. As such, we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point."

Emphasis NOT added by me.

"While it’s true that AMD’s multiplier-unlocked models appeal to tweak-happy power users, the company's overclocked game performance manages to either hang close to or fall just behind Intel's stock Core i3-2100. Pumping up voltage, multipliers, and, consequently, power usage seems like a futile exercise just to keep pace with an efficient $125 budget-oriented chip running at its default settings."

What did I say before lol...

reply to Krisnatharok

Re: [My Review] trying to relearn intel

It can be useful if your GPU is failing, you can still use your computer until you get a replacement. Maybe not for gaming.

The only problem I can see is wanting to put EVERYTHING on the CPU, like say PCIe, SATA, or other controllers. Let's go ahead and subject all that to the high heat..
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reply to jchambers28
Graphics isn't useless if you have a discrete card. QuickSync (Video Encode/Transcode) is a great technology that runs circles around even some of the high priced add-in graphics cards.

There are even ways of using both - get the best of each solution.
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I thought it disables the IGPU If u install a discreet GPU.

Depends on the motherboard I believe and no reason why it could not be overridden..