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| ME3 Are Renegade's Screwed? Yes I have 3 saves as a paragon but I also have 2 renegade characters. And since the goal of M3 is to defeat the Reapers by gaining a large war effort I'm wondering if renegade characters are getting screwed with this. For example:
1) You killed the Rachni Queen in ME1. That means they won't be there to fight for you as mentioned in ME2. But was it really a renegade thing? These were after all bugs that the reapers controlled.
2) You killed the Geth during Legions loyalty mission instead of reprogramming. They are Geth after all and you can't trust them. But now that means there are less to help you.
3) You advised the Quarians to take back their homeworld. That means they are fighting Geth instead of reapers. But this is what Tali always wanted so you were basically siding with her and end up screwed.
4) You killed Wrex. Well that was stupid so you deserve this one.
5) You destroyed the genophage cure. Can't remember if this was renegade or not but it means a lot less Korgans to fight the reapers.
6) You kept the collector base and only used the bomb to kill the collectors. Illusive man was happy and there might be some cool tech, but in ME3 it's well known that this hurts you. After all you had a priority to stop the Reapers and that base could help yet you get punished for it.
There are a few more (like going human rulled Citadel in ME1) but the point is renegade options were fairly logical and sound. Yet ME3 punishes you in that it hurts the war effort.
Or do you think that somehow Bioware will reward renegade options just like they reward paragon options? If so how? |
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 drewAutomaticPremium
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 AdaliciaPoM Nom Nom 'Mon
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Some of these bring up some pretty interesting questions.
I think that Renegade players won't be at a disadvantage, I'm unsure as to how. The Genophage cure being destroyed was actually a Paragon choice though, thought I'd note that. :P
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said by drew:INB4WHOASPOILERSBRO
None of these are spoilers as they are all things that happened in ME1 and 2. And since no one knows how ME3 WILL handle them it can't be a spoiler.
And anyone that ever played ME2, or watched any trailers knows you fight Cerberus in ME3. |
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said by Adalicia:Some of these bring up some pretty interesting questions.
I think that Renegade players won't be at a disadvantage, I'm unsure as to how. The Genophage cure being destroyed was actually a Paragon choice though, thought I'd note that. :P
Went to the Wiki and the paragon/renegade is the choice to stop Mordin from killing his student. The wiki does not link any paragon/renegade to keeping the cure. This is kinda interesting.
The mission summary says that if you saved the data you can use the Krogans as shock troops against the reapers. But nothing along those lines if you destroy the data.
The whole genophage was the murkiest decision line in the whole series anyway. The game implies the genophage is paragon but it was also wrong to do, even for the right reasons. So by not awarding any paragon/renegade maybe this was done to allow paragon players the option to keep the data and nto gain renegade points. Who knows? |
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 GoggalorPsychonautPremium
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Re: ME3 Are Renegade's Screwed? said by Goodmongo:1) You killed the Rachni Queen in ME1. That means they won't be there to fight for you as mentioned in ME2. But was it really a renegade thing? These were after all bugs that the reapers controlled. I don't remember anything about the Reapers controlling the Rachni, but whatever. The Krogan are held in *check with the genophage, whereas the Rachni would only be held in check by numbers. However, the Rachni breed faster than rabbits, making them a potential threat even if you were to believe what the queen said.
said by Goodmongo:2) You killed the Geth during Legions loyalty mission instead of reprogramming. They are Geth after all and you can't trust them. But now that means there are less to help you. Who is to say that the other side of the Geth would not be a bigger thorn once more Reapers are in the galaxy? Maybe Legion's side of the Geth will be freed up more to help out...
said by Goodmongo:3) You advised the Quarians to take back their homeworld. That means they are fighting Geth instead of reapers. But this is what Tali always wanted so you were basically siding with her and end up screwed. Who is to say that once they see the rest of the galaxy in peril, that the Quarians won't turn around to help... with promises of a new planet to call their own as a bargaining chip?
said by Goodmongo:4) You killed Wrex. Well that was stupid so you deserve this one. I cannot argue with this one. In either of my playthroughs of ME, I did not kill Wrex.
said by Goodmongo:5) You destroyed the genophage cure. Can't remember if this was renegade or not but it means a lot less Korgans to fight the reapers. Actually, destroying the information of the cure was Renegade, while keeping the information for later was Paragon. As for less Krogan, who is to say they would actually fight to help the galaxy again even when given the cure? The galaxy asked for their help once and see what happened?
said by Goodmongo:6) You kept the collector base and only used the bomb to kill the collectors. Illusive man was happy and there might be some cool tech, but in ME3 it's well known that this hurts you. After all you had a priority to stop the Reapers and that base could help yet you get punished for it. Destroying the base could also hurt Paragon, as you are missing out on all that tech. There is no way at the end of ME2 that the Illusive Man would be able to keep all the information contained to just Cerberus; you know Shepard, being a Renegade and all, probably found a way to leak that information out to the Alliance.
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said by drew:I've never played ME or ME2.
There's a statute of limitations on spoilers.  |
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 KulldarPremium
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Psssst... Bruce Willis is actually a ghost... |
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| said by Kulldar:Psssst... Bruce Willis is actually a ghost...
HOLY FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
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| said by Adalicia:said by Kulldar:Psssst... Bruce Willis is actually a ghost...
HOLY FUCK YOU ASSHOLE Of course he is. He had to set off that nuke on that asteroid to save the planet |
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kudos:1 | said by Goodmongo:said by Adalicia:said by Kulldar:Psssst... Bruce Willis is actually a ghost...
HOLY FUCK YOU ASSHOLE Of course he is. He had to set off that nuke on that asteroid to save the planet He also killed Alan Rickman using his wife and a giant evil asteroid with a female laser beam.
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Here is another one that might impact ME3. In the DLC Overlord you have the option to take the autistic brother away or to let the scientiest keep him around. The work might have impact on controlling Geth. So if you believed the scientiest that he wanted to make it up to his brother and care for him you got renegade points. This then allows Cerberus possible control of Geth when fighting you in ME3.
BTW has anyone else seen the YouTube videos of the demo yet? The part where that young boy gets it really set the tone that it was a fight for survivial. It was a nice touch on Bioware's part. |
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AdaliciaPoM Nom Nom 'Mon
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kudos:12 | I have not seem the demo. Now I'm very intrigued though. |
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 Scaith
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looks like i'm going to have to reinstall ME1 and 2 on my pc and actually play through them... |
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