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Eug

join:2007-04-14
Canada
reply to lleader

12/1 and 16/1 now best bang for the buck

25/7 is great, but with that new extra $8 fee for 25/7, that becomes much less desirable. Also, given that the 6/0.8 tier now also has that extra $1.50 which brings it to $36.49 (for 300 GB), I'd say the best bang for the buck is 12/1 or 16/1.

If I were to sign up today, I'd probably get the 16/1 with 300 GB cap.
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lachek

join:2007-11-14
Hamilton, ON
reply to neko

Re: [DSL] Blindsided by Teksavvy! $8 modem rental fee!

said by neko:

I am thinking I may just setup my own IISP, just to have you as a customer. So enamored am I, with your offer of the long beach walks.

Do you 'put out' on the first date?

Given that my activation date is Feb 14th (Valentine's Day, appropriately) and I'm already getting r@*ed well before then, it seems pretty clear to me that, in fact, I do.


lleader

join:2011-01-01
Mississauga, ON
reply to Phibian
said by Phibian:

Oh and the $8 fee showed up on my bill. I thought that I was exempt since I signed up in December? Posted in the direct forum for clarification but this is getting silly.


Let us know what the outcome is on this. I had shut up in this thread because I assumed from other posts that I would be exempt as I signed up in January at the $67.97 rate.

Eug

join:2007-04-14
Canada
reply to lleader

$10 modem rental fee!

AEI charges $10 per month in Ontario for a VDSL2 modem, for 25/7 service.

(Go to the site and hit the CheckIt button. You don't have to enter any phone number.)

However, their monthly cost is only $70 for unlimited, plus the $10 modem rental fee, for a total of $80. It's $86 for TSI.

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Davesnothere
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4 edits
said by Eug:

....However, AEI's monthly cost is only $70 for unlimited, plus the $10 modem rental fee, for a total of $80. It's $86 for TSI.

 
Almost ALL of their plans have unlimited usage !

Are these their NEW plans, or about to change ?

BTW, I see no mention of the dreaded $95 FTTN hookup fee.

Is it there and did I miss it ?

Also, on their 'Check It' page, they call our monthly consumption of data USAGE (its proper name, rather than Bandwidth).

EDIT : FOUND IT !

On the Check It (Rates) page, click on the 'Click Here' link for the order form, and it's in THERE.


m1stern0x

@bell.ca
reply to the cerberus

Re: [DSL] Blindsided by Teksavvy! $8 modem rental fee!

said by the cerberus:

the $8 fee is coming directly from bell.

Please quote the tariff, thanks.


Loopholes

@bell.ca
reply to Eug

Re: $10 modem rental fee!

said by Eug:

AEI charges $10 per month in Ontario for a VDSL2 modem, for 25/7 service.

(Go to the site and hit the CheckIt button. You don't have to enter any phone number.)

However, their monthly cost is only $70 for unlimited, plus the $10 modem rental fee, for a total of $80. It's $86 for TSI.

Or just get unlimited by exploiting bell's modems' loophole (both sagemcom and cellpipe).

Eug

join:2007-04-14
Canada
said by Loopholes :

Or just get unlimited by exploiting bell's modems' loophole (both sagemcom and cellpipe).

If you're saying what I think you're saying, doesn't that require getting Fibe TV?
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Loopholes

@bell.ca
reply to Eug
said by Eug:

AEI charges $10 per month in Ontario for a VDSL2 modem, for 25/7 service.

(Go to the site and hit the CheckIt button. You don't have to enter any phone number.)

However, their monthly cost is only $70 for unlimited, plus the $10 modem rental fee, for a total of $80. It's $86 for TSI.

Bell's SAGEMCOM modem will give you unlimited for a year @ $32.48/month

Eug

join:2007-04-14
Canada
I wonder if Bell is giving only the Cellpipe to resellers has to do with its Ethernet and wireless support. Bell provides free 802.11n with their Fibe 25. The Cellpipe's 802.11n is poor, so much so that they've been providing a separate 802.11n access point with the Cellpipe. Also, the Sagemcom F@st 2864 has Gigabit Ethernet, as opposed to 100 Mbps on the Cellpipe.

Because Bell doesn't need to send the 802.11n access point with the Sagemcom, it's actually cheaper for them ship the Sagemcom to its customers.

said by Loopholes :

Bell's SAGEMCOM modem will give you unlimited for a year @ $32.48/month

Feel free to share a link.
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anon987

@McMaster.CA
reply to Gimli

Re: [DSL] Blindsided by Teksavvy! $8 modem rental fee!

Check out their home page right now.

»teksavvy.com/en/default.asp


JCohen
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join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
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said by anon987 :

Check out their home page right now.

»teksavvy.com/en/default.asp

There is nothing different.


Gimli
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reply to anon987
said by anon987 :

Check out their home page right now.

»teksavvy.com/en/default.asp

What am I looking at?


Davesnothere
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said by Gimli:

said by anon987 :

Check out their home page right now.

»teksavvy.com/en/default.asp

What am I looking at?

 
A troll, IMNSHO.

Got me too, though I check certain pages there a couple of times daily anyway, these days.


Gimli
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join:2006-01-03
l5a2o4
said by Davesnothere:

said by Gimli:

said by anon987 :

Check out their home page right now.

»teksavvy.com/en/default.asp

What am I looking at?

 
A troll, IMNSHO.

Got me too, though I check certain pages there a couple of times daily anyway, these days.

lol

Teksavvy = Casino Niagara Roulette.....

Reload the page - guess what numbers you will see
lol


Davesnothere
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said by Gimli:

....Teksavvy = Casino Niagara Roulette....

 
Could be....

Mayhaps I owe that troll an apology.

malocite

join:2004-05-24
Hamilton, ON
Reviews:
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Its very interesting that this thread is still alive and keeps getting commented on. I wonder if the Feb 2 price change will be the point that people look back and say that's when Teksavvy lost their way.

Their complete refusal to address this charge that those of us that tried to sign up earlier to avoid IS the reason I will leave Tek as soon as I find an alternative that I like.


Inssomniak
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
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reply to Eug

Re: $10 modem rental fee!

said by Eug:

I wonder if Bell is giving only the Cellpipe to resellers has to do with its Ethernet and wireless support. Bell provides free 802.11n with their Fibe 25. The Cellpipe's 802.11n is poor, so much so that they've been providing a separate 802.11n access point with the Cellpipe. Also, the Sagemcom F@st 2864 has Gigabit Ethernet, as opposed to 100 Mbps on the Cellpipe.

Because Bell doesn't need to send the 802.11n access point with the Sagemcom, it's actually cheaper for them ship the Sagemcom to its customers.

said by Loopholes :

Bell's SAGEMCOM modem will give you unlimited for a year @ $32.48/month

Feel free to share a link.

Oddly I received a sagecom modem that was wide open with a bell login. Couldn't get the password out though.
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BaCkLaSH86

join:2010-11-25
reply to malocite

Re: [DSL] Blindsided by Teksavvy! $8 modem rental fee!

said by malocite:

I
Their complete refusal to address this charge that those of us that tried to sign up earlier to avoid IS the reason I will leave Tek as soon as I find an alternative that I like.

I agree also. It's not their usual way of business. They are silent on all threads that matter. I quote: "A couple weeks". We understand it might take a few weeks, but whats going on? All the other iISPs have been giving out info.

The major 4:

eBox is set! Atleast plans are done.
(Two POI's to connect in quebec and 10 GIGe upgrade with videotron)

Distributel seems to have finalized its unlimited stuff. (pricey but hey whatever, a few bucks won't kill anybody)

Acanac, well they have communicated to us that they are trying new throttling thingamajig. It's funny, for 3-4 years they've been ranting about Bell/Rogers throttling and it's not their fault, bla bla and now that Bell/Rogers have been forced to stop that throttle scam, they are trying to bringing it back. I bet you they will charge an extra for the MLPPP or SSH tunnel bypass. Weirdos.

TekSavvy: cricket, cricket, cricket. Total Silence!

Thanks for hearing me out. I only see two that make sense here as of right now. TSI is loosing the ball.

the cerberus

join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON

3 edits
reply to m1stern0x
said by m1stern0x :

said by the cerberus:

the $8 fee is coming directly from bell.

Please quote the tariff, thanks.

why? deals can be made outside of the tarriff, that is just the bare minimum....
paul from acanac said the charge was from bell on dslr, thats good enough info for most.
paul runs acanac if you didnt know.
not to mention velcom charges the same fee....
its pretty clear GAS is being charged this directly from bell
bell even ships all the modems for GAS....
what do you expect tsi to say? the charge is from bell, we already know that.

they screwed up and should have showed the $8 fee beforehand, i understand that.
they also screwed up by not having a per GB charge.
they also screwed up by not releasing quebec cable and west coast cable/dsl pricing.

we can only hope they fix these things, but that $8 isnt going away unless they can come to an agreement of selling modems.


Tx
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reply to Gimli
said by Gimli:

lol

Teksavvy = Casino Niagara Roulette.....

Reload the page - guess what numbers you will see
lol

lol, funny enough it's oddly true

jcorcoran

join:2010-08-12
Toronto, ON
reply to lleader
I just called accounting & inquired about my next invoice and, even though I signed up for 25/7 before February 2nd, my March bill will include the $8 modem rental fee.

My guess is whoever speculated before that existing customers would be exempt was incorrect.


pnjunction
Teksavvy Extreme
Premium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
kudos:1
reply to lleader
I find the $1.50 under-line activation charge more offensive than the modem rental.

But then I've always been of the attitude that the screwing from Bell/Rogers is mostly out of their control, TSI can just try to be as transparent and honest as possible.

Looking at it this way the modem rental might not have been handled the right way (you can debate whether it should be lumped in or separate, the timing and communication was obviously bad), but the $1.50 charge is just plain wrong.

The front page is still saying internet starts at 24.95 with no hidden fees...even if you make the argument that the fee isn't 'hidden', the internet doesn't start at 24.95.


JCohen
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Nepean, ON
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said by pnjunction:

The front page is still saying internet starts at 24.95 with no hidden fees...even if you make the argument that the fee isn't 'hidden', the internet doesn't start at 24.95.

Ontario cable starts at $24.99 so maybe that's why they left it as is although in Quebec they should've changed it as the cheapest is DSL 2 at $26.49 including the $1.50.


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5
reply to pnjunction
The $1.50 fee probably came down to the case where more often people complain about the upfront start up costs. The real funny thing is, even though the upfront cost might seem cheaper in the long run, the average person sees a bargain (whether it's lumped in or not) which is why Rogers and Bell often run promos for free install or no activation fee.

Looks can be deceiving but you have to find it first.


Davesnothere
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reply to jcorcoran
said by jcorcoran:

I just called accounting & inquired about my next invoice and, even though I signed up for 25/7 before February 2nd, my March bill will include the $8 modem rental fee.

My guess is whoever speculated before that existing customers would be exempt was incorrect.

 
Not sure of the reason, but if TSI bills existing 25/7 accounts the $8 modem rental fee (since those accounts' base rate is dropping like everyone else's), they'll anger THAT group of folks, but if they do NOT, they'll piss off the NEWEST subscribers who have been told that they themselves will have to pay it anyway.

Gonna be difficult for TSI to come out of THIS dilemma smelling purty !

Shirtjoy

join:2012-01-07
Scarborough, ON
TSI Dave told me that we would be exempt (through customer service email).

jcorcoran

join:2010-08-12
Toronto, ON
Let us know (you can find out your next estimated invoice amount through accounting), because I was told yesterday that even though I was an existing 25/7 customer, I would be charged the $8 modem rental on my next [post Feb 2nd] bill.

malocite

join:2004-05-24
Hamilton, ON
Reviews:
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reply to Davesnothere
said by Davesnothere:

said by jcorcoran:

I just called accounting & inquired about my next invoice and, even though I signed up for 25/7 before February 2nd, my March bill will include the $8 modem rental fee.

My guess is whoever speculated before that existing customers would be exempt was incorrect.

 
Not sure of the reason, but if TSI bills existing 25/7 accounts the $8 modem rental fee (since those accounts' base rate is dropping like everyone else's), they'll anger THAT group of folks, but if they do NOT, they'll piss off the NEWEST subscribers who have been told that they themselves will have to pay it anyway.

Gonna be difficult for TSI to come out of THIS dilemma smelling purty !

If only that had been up front and honest.... its remarkable how much EASIER everything is when you don't try and pull a fast one...


Rickkins

join:2004-04-05
Mtl, Canada
reply to lleader
The exodus begins.