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asjamias

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Is Comcast a monopoly ???

Split from this topic --> »Comcast- 1,100 Feet of cable for 3 Houses ???
~sorto'


said by CableTool:

said by ItzComcastic:

.... so it shouldnt be a problem. .

Most of your posts state "This isnt a big deal.." "Shouldnt be a problem.." "Shouldnt be an issue.." "Not willing to pay more then a couple hundred bucks.." Like your doing THEM a favor?

But It all is a big deal and undertaking.

There is a design already in place that takes in to account how many possible subs, how much power is needed, what poles need to be leased, how many amps of draw are there, where the power supply is etc.
You cant just run 1k feet of cable and hook one end up to an amp and the other to your house. People think cable is like hooking up a cat5 line from a router to a computer. Its not.

I also am not sure where you are starting your red line from? In the first image it looks like its running from rear easement and you are saying there is already cable there that needs to be extended.

In the next image you follow the actual pole line and say they can service 13 subs.. Which include the two that it allegedly already passes.

Best of luck whichever way it goes but try to be a little more realistic in what you are asking and avoid downplaying the labor and cost involved in a process you are not in any way aware of.

And to those that state he shouldnt have to pay anything- If you build your house in the middle of nowhere there are costs involved in getting services and utilities to it. None of these are "Rights" least of which is internet.

you sound a LOT different from what you said here...

»We're talking about competition now

said by CableTool:

Name one thing that is stopping any other competitor from building out plant or fiber and offering service to anywhere in the country...

*smack*

at least now, you see the bigger picture too...just like the OP.

like any other business...they need to take a look if that will be profitable or not.


CableTool
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Apples and Oranges and Im pretty sure you know that.

I am speaking of the same thing. Making an investment and getting a return. We both agree on that.

This being said would you say :
"DISH has a MONOPOLY in this area because they are preventing all other providers from entering!!!" ( which is what the other thread eluded to..)

No.

There is no monopoly. Someone is asking Comcast to look at this area and see if it can be built out. No one is stopping them from doing it. Its completely up to them whether it makes sense or not. If they do it, the area will have two choices. If they do not the area will only have one.. but DISH isnt the reason they only have one.

Just like no one is stopping Verizon from rolling out FIOS to make markets competitive. They stopped themselves. This isnt the fault of the incumbent provider.

I have always seen the bigger picture. I work in it everyday.
--
CableTechs.org/"Horrible People with Integrity"



nerdburg
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reply to asjamias
The simple definition of a monopoly is market structure where a single seller dominates trade in a good or service for which buyers can find no close substitutes. For example, having dial-up or satellite internet available in your area does not change the fact that Comcast has a monopoly on broadband. There are more strict definitions of "monopoly" some of which fit Comcast and some of which do not.

In some markets Comcast is a monopoly, but in most markets it is an oligopoly. It's in a market situation where relatively few sellers compete due to barriers such as high start-up costs. In markets where Comcast does compete, you'll generally find that there is little price difference between competitors.



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said by nerdburg:

It's in a market situation where relatively few sellers compete due to barriers such as high start-up costs.

The start up costs were high for COMCAST too.
But they risked the capital to build, acquire and rebuild multiple plants, while developing CATV, HSI,and voice products (more comming soon)
The reason you rarely see wide area cable overbuilders is the less than 10% profit margin as an industry average (that's only counting the healthy survivors scratch Adelphia, and charter (which exists due to bankruptcy laws, not a good business plan)

2 cableco's with mirrored plant's couldn't survive with half the subs each at greater expense (assumes a price/promo war to find some advantage)

even with just telco vs cableco notice that the telco is dying due to compettion in their primary product from VoIP, and cellco's., leaving a plant unable to compete in the VIDEO, HSI, and OTHER categories.
That is the physical plant is currently to expensive to reproduce given the current profit. a few smaller companies tried overbuilding in a limited high density redlining effort to reap some of most profitable areas.
few if any of those continue to expand.
As far as service, they gave the OP in the other thread a realistic quote, CC worked hard/paid the price the local franchiser's demanded to get that territory, and they will spend quite a bit to serve as many as they can, they know that is where the continuing income comes from.
so if you want universal competition, someone has to pay additional in order to
1}raise the profit margin to a 15-30% level to assure provider will want to compete, and can draw in the massive capital needed
OR
2} you can buy out the plants of all existing providers, expand the best of the technologies to ALL dwellings and businesses and operate it as a shared/common carrier. this would many times more expensive.

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