 JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium join:2002-12-24 Long Island kudos:3 Reviews:
·Vonage
·Optimum Online
| Third-Party Corporate Surveys The company I work for has been promising that all employees will have the opportunity to fill out a corporate survey regarding their job. The survey is done by one of those third-party reporting agencies that will tally up the results and deliver them to corporate. The questions are of the typical format: Strongly Agree, Agree, Neither Agree/Disagree, and so on. The questions themselves are not overly specific: "How likely would you be to recommend [us] to a friend?", "If in 12 months you had a similar opportunity at another company for similar pay, how likely would you consider leaving?", etc.
The privacy policy of the third-party agency say that any personally identifiable data/tokens will be stripped prior to releasing the results to my company. Somehow, something in the back of my mind tells me that while that all sounds nice and good, it may not be 100% truthful.
The email I received asks me to go to the third-party site via link and to enter my special PIN to enter the survey. Each person has a different PIN sent to their corporate email address. When you think about it, they could match the PIN to my email address, and boom there is my identity--they say they strip that data, but who knows what really is done.
I'm not a disgruntled worker by any means, but I (and others) do see problems that are fixable, and we have been brought many solutions to the attention of management many times, but we're never listened to. These are problems that effect efficiencies, and as such, "the bottom line". I'd like to communicate something like that in the email, but I feel slightly "on edge" about telling the truth, feeling it could get back to me.
I don't plan on filling out the survey on my work PC - I plan on doing it at home.
What is the general opinion on these surveys regarding privacy? Is the data really stripped? Has anyone's constructive comments ever resulted in any sort of demotion, disciplinary action, or change of treatment in the office? I'm trying not to get crazy about it - i.e. should I use a proxy service when connecting to the survey at home? Etc.
I'm one of those people that likes to fix problems. I like to look for problems simply to see if I can fix it. When I have a solution to a fixable problem and I'm ignored, it annoys the shit out of me. I'd like to communicate that to corporate without my identity or fear of termination.
Opinions? -- He used to say that soul shine, is better than sunshine, better than moonshine, damn sure better than rain.
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 runnoftPremium join:2003-10-14 Deerfield, IL kudos:1 Reviews:
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| I have no specific knowledge of companies going back on their word and not stripping away the personally identifiable PIN data, but personally, I wouldn't trust it because the incentive for the company to use this to screen for unhappy employees and eliminate them is too high. If I could ignore it and not complete it, I would. If they made me fill one out, I would just say things are fine and not give them anything to use against me. I might make an innocuous suggestion for improvement, like add a coffeemaker--something that doesn't signify an unhappy employee. I wouldn't trust a paper form, either, in this situation; it's too easy to make them personally identifiable without the responder's knowledge. |
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 Mr NeutronLooks like I picked the wrong week toPremium join:2005-05-30 Gorham, ME | reply to Jeffrey said by Jeffrey:The company I work for has been promising that all employees will have the opportunity to fill out a corporate survey regarding their job. The survey is done by one of those third-party reporting agencies that will tally up the results and deliver them to corporate. Who is paying this third party firm?
If the answer is "my company," then that's who will be owning and controlling the data. This:
said by Jeffrey:I'd like to communicate something like that in the email, but I feel slightly "on edge" about telling the truth, feeling it could get back to me.
Is what you should go by.
This sounds to me like one of those deals where you have everything to lose and very little to gain. I'm not you, but that's the way I would treat it, and answer the survey accordingly.
If it sounds too good to be true (e.g. expressing your frustrations without any repercussions), then it probably is. 
said by Jeffrey:I'm not a disgruntled worker by any means, but I (and others) do see problems that are fixable, and we have been brought many solutions to the attention of management many times, but we're never listened to.
Ask yourself: what is their incentive to listen this go-round when they haven't listened before? |
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 KilroyPremium,MVM join:2002-11-21 Ann Arbor, MI | reply to Jeffrey I've done this, completed company surveys, for three different companies. The real question is how much do you trust the company. If you don't trust them, then you should already be looking for a new job. If you do trust them, be honest in your answers.
Most companies that do these surveys are being driven by upper management. When they get the results back they feed them back down the chain and create action plans to fix the problems. If they don't know about the problems they can't even try to fix them. They won't know unless you tell them.
Normally communication is a problem, at least in most larger companies. The real problem is specific communication, ie a change is being made that will affect your work and you don't find out until the day the change is made that it is coming. One company decided that the way to fix the communication issue was more meettings. Unfortunately that wasn't the solution as the communication issues were specific and not general.
As far as privacy, it is an illusion when you give your opinions. Fill the survey out at work, on company time and answer honestly. If you can't do that, look for another company to work for as you have bigger issues with the company you are with. -- When will the people realize that with DRM they aren't purchasing anything? |
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 JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium join:2002-12-24 Long Island kudos:3 Reviews:
·Vonage
·Optimum Online
| said by Kilroy:I've done this, completed company surveys, for three different companies. The real question is how much do you trust the company. If you don't trust them, then you should already be looking for a new job. If you do trust them, be honest in your answers. Well, I'm always looking for a better opportunity, no matter where I am or how long I've been there. Based on what I have seen, I trust Corporate, but I don't necessarily trust middle-management here in my office, which is where the majority of the problems exist.
said by Kilroy:Most companies that do these surveys are being driven by upper management. When they get the results back they feed them back down the chain and create action plans to fix the problems. If they don't know about the problems they can't even try to fix them. They won't know unless you tell them. One company decided that the way to fix the communication issue was more meettings. Unfortunately that wasn't the solution as the communication issues were specific and not general. I'm cautious of the knee-jerk solutions to individual problems. I don't want or need to create more beuocracy to "fix" specific issues, which is why I have to word things properly.
said by Kilroy:As far as privacy, it is an illusion when you give your opinions. Fill the survey out at work, on company time and answer honestly. If you can't do that, look for another company to work for as you have bigger issues with the company you are with. Fair enough. -- He used to say that soul shine, is better than sunshine, better than moonshine, damn sure better than rain.
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 MsradellP.E.Premium join:2008-12-25 Louisville, KY Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·Insight Communic..
| reply to Jeffrey I've done several of them at different times in my career and have never had nor heard of any retaliation or feedback ever been given to any participant. I think it's basically the integrity of the third party company that's the major point in this. They need to protect the personal information in order to obtain future work. The only reason you have the personal PIN is to ensure that the people completing the survey are actually employees and that each one of them only fills out one survey. |
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 | reply to Jeffrey I've done many as well over the past 30 years and had no problems and in fact helped with the setting up of one. The PIN normally is for them to better quantify the data depending on what the company is looking for - gender, department you work in (but not your specific name), etc. Often companies want to know what departments have lower moral, etc. so they can hopefully fix the problems and the surveyors get that from the PIN. Usually the survey company doesn't know who the PIN is tied to beyond certain things they are hired to track like gender, department, etc. but not specific employee. |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | reply to Jeffrey Sounds like part of the script from office space where they brought in those consultants.
When cutbacks are coming you can bet they'll use the survey to "thin the herd" |
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 CabalPremium join:2007-01-21 Austin, TX Reviews:
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1 edit | said by dvd536:Sounds like part of the script from office space where they brought in those consultants.
When cutbacks are coming you can bet they'll use the survey to "thin the herd" Yup. These things go out when the company is looking for quick fixes (read: little money invested) to small problems. They're happy to hear about creature-comfort issues that they can throw a few hundred bucks at.
Real dissent will brand you a "troublemaker" when it's time to tighten the belt. -- Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Islamic religion? |
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My company does the same thing. I highly doubt they're going to match responses to individual employees. An individual manager might try to do it based on the demographic data. e.g., if you're the only woman in the department who has been there for 20-25 years... |
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 dingoPremium join:2009-02-08 kudos:1 Reviews:
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Jeffrey We get those every year. I fill mine out because I don't give a crap what they think of me. I do find it interesting that after filling out the survey, you are prevented from filling out another-they track the who's somehow. We're only allowed to complete it on line with our company computer. Mention a threat or something illegal and you can bet there is a mechanism in place to ID the individual respondent.
That said, I've been less than "nice" when filling mine out-and I've never heard a word.
-- An armed society is a polite society. When I carry a gun, I dont do so because I am looking for a fight, but because Im looking to be left alone
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 dandelionPremium,MVM join:2003-04-29 Germantown, TN kudos:4 | reply to Jeffrey I would assume whatever you say in this survey will reflect on your personal job and go from there.  |
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 mocyclerPremium join:2001-01-22 Naperville, IL Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
1 edit | reply to Jeffrey I work for a h-u-g-e company (over 300K employees worldwide) and we get these surveys too. It's the same deal...the survey is conducted by an outside vendor and they swear, swear, swear it's completely anonymous. The PIN is to make sure no one takes the survey more than once and to compile aggregate data for different departments without tracing it to an individual.
From what I can tell, it's a good news/bad news deal: I'm not aware of any retaliation for negative comments made in these surveys, but I'm not aware of any improvements made as a result of the remarks, either. Management must place some legitimate value on the data because I'm sure these studies cost a lot of dough. They don't do this stuff just for the hell of it.
Look at it this way: If the company wants to "get" you, they don't need to set up some elaborate big-buck scheme to entrap you with an expensive fake "survey". They will somehow find a way to kick your ass out the door without any help from a contractor.
I say answer the questions honestly but don't expect much to become of it. |
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 Wily_OnePremium join:2002-11-24 San Jose, CA | reply to Jeffrey We had a survey like that at one company I worked, only it wasn't by a third party it was done by the company itself. You didn't have to enter your name but I knew they could track it. I didn't care. I reamed them good, ripping on the rampant fecklessness I saw all around. Everything I had to say was valid, but I'm sure they didn't want to hear the truth.
Nothing ever "happened to me" because of it, and of course the results came back that 90 some-odd percent were satisfied, blah blah. Spineless drones + the typical corporate spin. I was out of there within a year or so in a better job with a much better future. |
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 JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium join:2002-12-24 Long Island kudos:3 Reviews:
·Vonage
·Optimum Online
| said by Wily_One:Nothing ever "happened to me" because of it, and of course the results came back that 90 some-odd percent were satisfied, blah blah. Spineless drones + the typical corporate spin. I was out of there within a year or so in a better job with a much better future. I don't dislike where I work, and I can't say that I truly enjoy it either. I'm just tired of seeing ineptitude. In my industry there luckily are jobs to be had in the region, so for me it's moving from one company to another.
I'm not looking to ream anyone, I'm looking to improve the place so people enjoy working there, so people will want to work there, so everyone would benefit, including the company. -- He used to say that soul shine, is better than sunshine, better than moonshine, damn sure better than rain.
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 Wily_OnePremium join:2002-11-24 San Jose, CA | said by Jeffrey:I'm just tired of seeing ineptitude... I'm not looking to ream anyone, I'm looking to improve the place... So was I. But in the vast majority of companies, especially big ones with lots of bureaucracy, they don't want to hear that anything is wrong because then that implies some managers are not doing their job properly. Kind of like the Emperor's New Clothes. |
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