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Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:59:20 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted : Find the MD chart for 2010-2011, then we'll know whos right. I guarantee it will be filled with a whole bunch of different numbers.

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:52:05 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by ITALIAN926:

Youre still not getting it.

When assessments go down, the tax rates GO UP. EVERYWHERE. Find the tax rates for Maryland for the previous year, and you will find an entire table of different numbers.

Conversely, when overall assessments go UP, MIL rates go DOWN. The town/cities will collect their monies regardless as to what your houses are worth in your area.

Funny, I have my tax forms right here with me and the property tax rate did not change one bit. Again, I am not in a specific town or locality that raises rates on a whim like Annapolis.

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:02:44 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted : Youre still not getting it.

When assessments go down, the tax rates GO UP. EVERYWHERE. Find the tax rates for Maryland for the previous year, and you will find an entire table of different numbers.

Conversely, when overall assessments go UP, MIL rates go DOWN. The town/cities will collect their monies regardless as to what your houses are worth in your area.

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:47:46 EDT

moonpuppy posted : How does it prove me wrong?

Assements of the housing values are going down. Less revenue is coming in because of this.

»www.hometownannapolis.com/news/H···-up.html

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As real estate agents, we have often seen the sales price of homes, which is the true fair market value, vary substantially from assessed values. In the recently assessed parts of southern Anne Arundel county and Annapolis, the average assessed value declined by 15 percent. But the numbers can be all over the map. Our own home went down by 7.8 percent; whereas the assessed value of another Annapolis property we have listed for sale declined by almost 25 percent.

Now, the article goes on about how some people are going up is assessments and taxes because of the lag in the assessments catching up to what the home sold for. However, only certain places (like Annapolis which was mentioned in the article) are making adjustments to charge more. I do not live in Annapolis and the vast majority of people of my county do not live there either so rates in my area are the same BUT the values and assessments are going down and the county is collecting less from the other areas. Some of this has to to also deal with the Homestead Tax Credit which is over and the every 3 year assessments are coming due and the values are dropping like rocks.

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:27:33 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted : What do you think those RATES are !!!!?? Its a combination of the value taxes at a MIL rate ! Just because your homes has lost value, doesnt mean your taxes are going down !

If your house lost 50% of its value because of the housing crisis, you think youre paying 50% less taxes !? Its not how it works . The city/town WILL get the money they need to operate.

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Below is a list of counties in Maryland, and their property tax rates in effect on July 1, 2011. All rates are shown per $100 of assessment.

You post a link that proves you wrong, I love it.

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:47:41 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by ITALIAN926:

Moonpuppy, do u have any clue how property taxes work?, the value of your home has NOTHING to do with what you pay in taxes. One way or another the town will get their money. Your value goes down, MIL rates go up. Nice try though.

People who are so illogically anti-union, are the most ignorant people in the world.

Maybe not where you are from but in my state, property taxes are based on the value of your home.

»www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/taxrate.html

And in the state of Maryland, assements are going down because many of the houses are worth less than they were assesed at in the first place. So as the assements are going down, so is the property tax amount being paid.

And rates have not gone up here but Maryland has a saying, "If you can dream it, we can tax it."

Re: Fire Them

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:39:39 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted : Moonpuppy, do u have any clue how property taxes work?, the value of your home has NOTHING to do with what you pay in taxes. One way or another the town will get their money. Your value goes down, MIL rates go up. Nice try though.

People who are so illogically anti-union, are the most ignorant people in the world.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:13:03 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by CXM_Splicer:

Strange... at the end of that article it states: "Back in 1985 General Motors had 464,000 union members, at that time they were as big as the U.S. Army. At the end 2004 General Motors UAW members were down to 111,000 members; a 77 percent decrease in membership." Please tell me when the auto-industry bailouts occurred... So your argument is The auto industry needed a bailout because the unions which were killing the industry decreased by 77%? You might want to rethink that.

And who caused the jobs to go away? Competition. Toyota, Nissan and Honda kicked the Detroit in quality and people were sick of paying high prices for crap.

said by CXM_Splicer:

You are joking with this... right? Do you think for ONE SECOND that the corporate executives listen to the peon workers? Who exactly were they suppose to complain to? It wasn't some secret... EVERYONE KNEW IT ALREADY! The corporate heads made the decisions and you hold the workers responsible... unbelievable.

They seemed to listen everytime they threatened a strike. :uhh:

said by CXM_Splicer:

Everyone?? I haven't stopped paying... have you? Does anyone reading this care to volunteer that they are paying substantially less now? Certain individuals have substantially reduced what they have been paying... who specifically? Yes, jobs are disappearing; they are being sent overseas for increased corporate profits. The very same corporations that pay little or no taxes now. Are you beginning to see the trend? Please stop listening to Hannity and look at what's really going on around you!

Why not take a look at property tax revenues. Values are dropping and revenues are falling because of foreclosures. I know my property taxes are going down because my house lost a of its inflated value when the state came by and raised everyone's value in order to tax them more.

People are buying less, people are making less (if they are working) and companies are cutting back.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:55:33 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :

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Care to explain the jobs bank that the UAW made the Big 3 automakers maintain?

�www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008/1��ob-bank/

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And where were the unions? Why didn't they complain? They were as complicit as the corporate heads.

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Everyone stopped paying. Companies and individuals alike. Jobs are disappearing and states that raise taxes are losing businesses. Illinois raised taxes and the businesses that could, left the state.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:26:11 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by CXM_Splicer:

Care to explain the jobs bank that the UAW made the Big 3 automakers maintain?

»www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2008/1···ob-bank/

said by CXM_Splicer:

The thing that killed Detroit was a combination of planned obsolescence and skimping on quality... a/k/a corporate greed. People wanted nothing to do with poorly designed cars and went to the competition... pure and simple. The companies you mention are not US companies, their policies and ethics are set by the executives overseas. You neglected to mention that both Japan and Germany are heavily unionized countries and both of their economies are doing better than ours.

And where were the unions? Why didn't they complain? They were as complicit as the corporate heads.

And those companies may be foreign but the plants are here. And the UAW has stated they cannot survive without unionizing these plants. They even went so far as to try and get German union workers to strike in Germany so they American plants can get unionized.

»online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142···972.html

said by CXM_Splicer:

You also forgot to explain why the tax revenue is disappearing. Are you paying less taxes now than 20 years ago?? Because I know I'm not. So WHO STOPPED PAYING TAXES?

Everyone stopped paying. Companies and individuals alike. Jobs are disappearing and states that raise taxes are losing businesses. Illinois raised taxes and the businesses that could, left the state.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:10:01 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :

said by moonpuppy:

Union membership is down because unions are killing the companies. They kept demanding more and more and not caring about the health of the company. Striking to make a point only to find the unions got even less. Remember the UPS strike? Customer got so fed up, they left UPS and went to the alternatives.

Unions have tried to get into the Honda, Nissan and Volkswagen plants the workers kept saying no. Why? Because, while they maybe make $0.50 less than union workers, they don't have to pay union dues and they saw how the UAW destroyed Detroit.

And let's not forget the air traffic controllers who decided to go against the law and strike. Reagan was right to fire every single one that refused to come back to work.

Unions are longer thought of helping the common man but helping themselves and rewarding mediocrity instead of hard work.

Killing the companies? What are you talking about?!? Most companies are making higher profits now than ever. Again, your opinion is not substantiated by facts. The only ones demanding more and more without caring about the health of the company are the shareholders a/k/a leeches.

The thing that killed Detroit was a combination of planned obsolescence and skimping on quality... a/k/a corporate greed. People wanted nothing to do with poorly designed cars and went to the competition... pure and simple. The companies you mention are not US companies, their policies and ethics are set by the executives overseas. You neglected to mention that both Japan and Germany are heavily unionized countries and both of their economies are doing better than ours.

You also forgot to explain why the tax revenue is disappearing. Are you paying less taxes now than 20 years ago?? Because I know I'm not. So WHO STOPPED PAYING TAXES?

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:12:44 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by CXM_Splicer:

Actually, the facts seem to indicate the opposite of what you claim. Union membership in the US is at an all time low (and still going down) but the goose is sicker now than ever. There is a direct relationship between the decline of unions and the decline of the economy. There is an inverse relationship between corporate profits and the economy.

The reason for the public sector cut backs is simple... lack of tax revenue. So the question is: Why are tax revenues going down? I will let you answer that one.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:57:38 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :

said by moonpuppy:

Really? I can say I "hate" the public sector unions of Baltimore City when they "demanded" a tax hike so they could get a pay raise. :uhh:

The unions are killing the goose that laid the golden egg and blaming everyone around them for their actions.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:07:37 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by Miataman:

We all have to get by that word "HATE" before we can accomplish anything significant.

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:39:45 EDT

Miataman posted :

said by moonpuppy:

one of the issues that people hate with unions.

We all have to get by that word "HATE" before we can accomplish anything significant.
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"My hat, my cane, Jeeves".

Re: Fire Them

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:45:54 EDT

moonpuppy posted : Can we also thank you and your union brothers for the "job banks" that nearly killed the auto companies? How about how the UAW wanted to keep workers on the payroll after they were caught drinking and smoking pot during their lunch breaks?

If the unions didn't protest the idiots that would be fired from any other job, then I would have less of a problem with them. But their insistence that they keep those that pose a danger to others is one of the issues that people hate with unions.

Re: Fire Them

Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:57:41 EDT

anon posted :

said by Kommie:

said by pnh102:

said by CXM_Splicer:

If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.

Then Unionize like they did and put yourself on the line and stop bitching about it on the Internet.

Its hard to unionize a company, those people put their lives on the line in order to do that, and they won.

you people jump to funny conclusions. he was responding to a statement not complaiming...

Re: Fire Them

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:08:33 EDT

anon posted : You can all thank me and all my union brother's for the wages you are making as nonunion employee.Without us you would not be making the wage's you are.Once the union's are gone do you think you will have good wage's!!!! Don't get me wrong there is good and bad in the union and the company,I have seen it all in my 20 plus years as a union employee. I just hope they can make it work for the company and the employee. I don't like seeing any form of strike, It sux been there done that :huh:.It's a no win for both side's.

Re: Fire Them

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:02:42 EDT

S_engineer posted :

said by pnh102:

said by CXM_Splicer:

If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.

If your pay was cut, then you should be showing sympathies for this action, whether or not it was carried out by non-union employees. Why is it that even with personal evidence (my pay was cut), you would bash the only entity (a union) that is actually trying to elevate wages across the board?

If you keep taking it....I got some Chinese wages for you that you'll just love!!!!
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:05:42 EDT

Miataman posted :

said by soundviewave :

..then cablevision can ask the contractor to fire the contract employee.

its too bad that u went to MIT and dont know jack.

So you admit it's the contracted agency, and not CV that does the firing...

....and no need to be smarmy in your response. Let's keep it civil and on topic, ok... EOD
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"My hat, my cane, Jeeves".

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:43:05 EDT

anon posted : you are wrong ! cablevision CAN fire a contract employee. if a contractor has repeated follow up trouble calls, complaints, and all that...then cablevision can ask the contractor to fire the contract employee.

its too bad that u went to MIT and dont know jack.

said by Miataman:

said by pnh102:

quote:
Following last week's vote, roughly 120 contracted Bronx technicians briefly walked off their jobs in a "wildcat" strike Thursday protesting a 30% reduction in wages (to $35) for triple play installations.

Wildcat strikes are not legally protected job actions. If Cablevision is smart it would quickly fire every one of these strikers before they cause the company even more grief.

.. They were "contracted" they were NOT CV employees, and therefore not fireable by CV.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:40:23 EDT

anon posted :

said by tkdslr:

Then Cablevision will have to pay market, (100 to 200$ per), rates for triple play installations.

they do pay over $100 per install. but that is to the contracting company that pays their workers $40.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:55:56 EDT

Kommie posted :

said by pnh102:

said by CXM_Splicer:

If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:10:21 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :
I am truly sorry you had your salary reduced. Perhaps if you were in a union you would have fared better than standing against the company by yourself. Verizon has many managers that are considering forming a Managers union (other companies have them too); maybe that would be an option for you. There is nothing wrong with standing up and demanding fair treatment as long as you do it together.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:59:33 EDT

tmc8080 posted : I doubt even the $49.95 any drain plumber guys will keep their rates the same for very long. $35 for a cable install is very low for a service call. Tell me ANY other industry thats as cheap or cheaper for a home service call... A cable install can be upto 2 hours (typical is 1hr) for complex installs and minor troubleshooting & activation of set-tops, cablemodem, phone line, etc.

Gasoline prices on the rise.. no way service calls can't rise. Fire them and no doubt the next persons Cablevision hires will be paid MORE to do the same job. Verizon is giving Cablevision plenty of breathing room by rai$ing FIOS rates, effective IMMEDIATELY-- and jacking up the taxes & fees as well! Cablevision employees deserve more money.. outsourced or not-- for that extra money customers get the say with anonymous (coded) surveys on whether they are doing a good job or not.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:49:18 EDT

Miataman posted :

said by pnh102:

quote:
Following last week's vote, roughly 120 contracted Bronx technicians briefly walked off their jobs in a "wildcat" strike Thursday protesting a 30% reduction in wages (to $35) for triple play installations.

Wildcat strikes are not legally protected job actions. If Cablevision is smart it would quickly fire every one of these strikers before they cause the company even more grief.

.. They were "contracted" they were NOT CV employees, and therefore not fireable by CV.
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"My hat, my cane, Jeeves".

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:31:26 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted :

quote:
My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.

I guess that excludes YOU as being a Dolan.

So basically, your point of view is that bc YOU as an individual cannot fight for your labor rights, NOBODY should be able to. Because YOU were given a pay cut, everyone else should do the same. Hmm.

Since you believe Cablevision techs are on the brink of being rich and spoiled with benefits, why dont you quit your job and move to the NY area and become an installer?

Until then, keep your opinions to yourself and worry about your own employment.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:29:05 EDT

JRW2 posted :

said by pnh102:

said by CXM_Splicer:

If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.

I'll bet it wasn't 30% though..
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:17:00 EDT

pnh102 posted :

said by CXM_Splicer:

If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

My pay at my job WAS cut. It was either that or lose my job.
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:04:10 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted :

said by moonpuppy:

Nope, there are plenty of techs out there looking for work and will work for peanuts since jobs are hard to come by now.

Do you not understand that this mentality is a race to the bottom? For your sake I hope you are not a worker or a manager because, if you are, your salary will start decreasing soon from this very same effect.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:56:46 EDT

CXM_Splicer posted : Actually, it is only a wildcat strike if there is a collective bargaining agreement in place. From what I understand, these were non-union contractors so the strike was not illegal. Cablevision could fire them all if they wanted to but then forget about any repairs/installs in the Bronx for a while... not too smart. Apparently Cablevision agreed because they withdrew the 30% cut.

It is really sad that there are people who think workers should accept a 30% pay cut without so much as a whimper. If it was your pay getting cut would you thank them for it?

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:21:28 EDT

JRW2 posted :

said by Pathfinder:

I guess you would sit there and smile if your boss came in and told you "Stating next week we're cutting your salary 30%"
Oh thank you sir. I'm just glad I got a job.

They might... :huh:
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:24:45 EDT

Pathfinder posted :

said by pnh102:

said by ITALIAN926:

Its amazing to me that you jerks actually side with a greedy giant corporation, rather than your fellow HUMAN BEING trying to make a better life for his/her families.

How is the person any less greedy for wanting more money? Why is that person's greed worse than the collective greed of a business?

Did you read the article? They didn't ask for more money. Their company cut their pay by 30%.
I guess you would sit there and smile if your boss came in and told you "Stating next week we're cutting your salary 30%"
Oh thank you sir. I'm just glad I got a job.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:15:39 EDT

clone posted : That's what I said.

However, calling it a "wildcat strike" is used by pro-corporate top 10% of the top 1% loving zealots just to be sensational. You are not part of their club, trust me, you're not. Stop defending them. It makes all of you look foolish.

Any balanced media would call it exactly what it is, a bunch of workers got rightfully pissed about the continuous shafting they get from megacorporations, and failed to show up for work on the same day.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:14:25 EDT

fifty nine posted :

said by Woody79_00:

the fact is, if you look a CableVision's Balace sheet, you will find they are not hurting...they can afford to pay their employees a decent salary and still have plenty of money left over to show very good profits for their CEO, shareholders, etc...but they don't want to do that. it is what it is. However, i don't think morality should be legislated...so really..the best they could do is refuse to work under such conditions or form a union.

These aren't cablevision employees. They are contractors. The contracting company pays them a salary, and like most body shops they are cut rate.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:53:51 EDT

Woody79_00 posted :

said by ITALIAN926:

Its amazing to me that you jerks actually side with a greedy giant corporation, rather than your fellow HUMAN BEING trying to make a better life for his/her families.

You should all be ashamed, really.

I agree, but you don't understand...many folks will defend the very same people who rob them blind.

these are not rational thinking people. I know corporations have a place, im not anti-corp...im pro-common sense.

the fact is, if you look a CableVision's Balace sheet, you will find they are not hurting...they can afford to pay their employees a decent salary and still have plenty of money left over to show very good profits for their CEO, shareholders, etc...but they don't want to do that. it is what it is. However, i don't think morality should be legislated...so really..the best they could do is refuse to work under such conditions or form a union.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:46:42 EDT

pnh102 posted :

said by ITALIAN926:

Its amazing to me that you jerks actually side with a greedy giant corporation, rather than your fellow HUMAN BEING trying to make a better life for his/her families.

How is the person any less greedy for wanting more money? Why is that person's greed worse than the collective greed of a business?
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:45:31 EDT

pnh102 posted :

said by clone:

This was NOT a wildcat strike.

Only in the technical sense that there is no legally recognized union. It is still an absence without authorization, and thus a fireable offense.
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:14:26 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted :

quote:
Omar Hutchinson, one of the technicians who went on strike, said that workers were moved to act by the Cablevision vote in Brooklyn. He said he earns about $600, before taxes and without health insurance, for a seven-day week that can stretch to 50 or 60 hours.

Seriously, you people bashing these workers disgust me ! Afraid of a $10 increase on your TV bill or something? Bunch of losers on this site !

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:04:28 EDT

ITALIAN926 posted : Its amazing to me that you jerks actually side with a greedy giant corporation, rather than your fellow HUMAN BEING trying to make a better life for his/her families.

You should all be ashamed, really.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:02:40 EDT

clone posted : Yes, and thanks for asking. Obviously you don't. This was NOT a wildcat strike. These workers are not the ones that unionized. A wildcat strike is one where union workers walk off the job without the approval of their union leaders. But thanks for the cup of smug, anyway, I needed one this morning.

Anyway, these are another group of workers who wish to unionize, so this would just be a work stoppage (and an extremely minimal one at that). Not to say that you can't be fired for that, but I am wholly on their side. It's about time workers started standing together again, instead of being run over slipshod by your precious "job creators".

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:48:43 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by viperlmw:

Not techs with any experience, or who aren't drunks, or who actually care about quality or the customer.

I have just recently been forced to deal with contractor installations in my area, installations that used to be done by company employees. They had no experience, did bad work, much of which had to be completely re-done, ended up costing the company much more, yet that anti-employee agenda just won't let the powers that be realize this. Contractors only care about getting paid for the piece they are doing. Employees tend to care much more about the company they work for and the customers they serve. But there is an agenda out there, 'Get rid of employees, contract it all out'! Then a company with 50,000 employees can pretend they are a small business.

And I had the same experience with company techs who didn't know their rear end from a hole in the ground.

Face facts, the wildcat strike was a form of union intimidation against the company and meant to send a message. All that was sent was a big "screw you" to Cablevision and the message back should be "since you care so much, you can find jobs elsewhere."

Unions are going to have to realize their old tactics don't work anymore. Keep doing them and no one will be on their sides.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:44:33 EDT

viperlmw posted :

said by moonpuppy:

said by tkdslr:

Then Cablevision will have to pay market, (100 to 200$ per), rates for triple play installations.

Nope, there are plenty of techs out there looking for work and will work for peanuts since jobs are hard to come by now.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:33:33 EDT

pnh102 posted : Do you even know what a wildcat strike is?

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:32:08 EDT

clone posted : Exactly. Can't have the proles standing up for themselves, you know, demanding a living wage and getting all uppity. It's almost like they think they should be able to hold a card or two in our deck. Ha! Lazy money-hungry bastards. I wish we had some decent robots so we didn't have to use these sub-human pieces of trash for our installations at all.

We've worked hard over the years to break up this kind of collusion between the unwashed masses, and it's high time to start letting them know that we learned from those mistakes and won't be letting the pendulum swing back their way, ever.

So damn right, set that batch of slaves free and find a new bunch that will work for $25 or $30 per installation instead of $35. That's how to be a real job creator.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:56:55 EDT

moonpuppy posted :

said by tkdslr:

Then Cablevision will have to pay market, (100 to 200$ per), rates for triple play installations.

Nope, there are plenty of techs out there looking for work and will work for peanuts since jobs are hard to come by now.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:25:56 EDT

pnh102 posted :

said by megatron266:

I say don't fire them but talk with them and see what went wrong here.

No, in the case of a wildcat strike, the employer must act swiftly and forcefully. These kinds of strikes are not like conventional strikes in which there is no contract between labor and management. If the management tolerates one wildcat strike, there will be more.

The other funny thing is that by engaging in a wildcat strike, this newly formed union just made it that much easier for the company to get rid of it once and for all because there is no legal recourse that can be taken against an employer that fires a worker who engaged in a wildcat strike. That's why most labor unions frown upon them.
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Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:20:58 EDT

tkdslr posted : Then Cablevision will have to pay market, (100 to 200$ per), rates for triple play installations.

Re: Fire Them

Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:00:31 EDT

moonpuppy posted : Agreed. Let them find work elsewhere while they bite the hand that fed them.