| SPA2012 Question on 2 SIP provider Is it possible to use SPA2012 such that Freephoneline is my prefer provider but use Voip.ms for LD? I want the setup to only use 1 phone and not have to plug a second phone to line2. |
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| said by zzricezz:Is it possible to use SPA2012 such that Freephoneline is my prefer provider but use Voip.ms for LD? ... Sorry, no. Some possible alternatives:
1. Get a two-line phone.
2. Use a multi-line IP phone instead of the ATA.
3. Replace the ATA with an OBi100, SPA3102, SPA1001, etc.
4. Use a calling card service such as CallWithUs or Localphone for LD.
5. Use a service such as PBXes between ATA and providers.
6. Use a service such as Voxbeam or Flowroute for LD; they are compatible with your SPA2102. |
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 brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | reply to zzricezz
... Or (total overkill!) take an old, spare PC, slap PBX In A Flash on it (or some other local PBX), learn how to use it, register the SPA with your PBX instead of directly to your providers, register the PBX in turn to your providers, and then via dial-pattern (not dial PLAN) magic in the outbound routes of the PBX using one phone you can (perhaps via a prefix) select your carrier of choice for your outbound calls: Freephoneline for local and Voip.ms for LD.
(This is the local version of using PBXes "in the cloud" as described by Stewart. Using PBXes you'd still have to come to grips with the same kind of dial-pattern and outbound route knowledge). |
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| reply to Stewart
Thanks Stewart,
Voxbeam looks very interesting, I went onto their website but it doesn't explain how their service work.
I'm guessing that I will configure my SPA2102 to connect to Voxbeam servers and they will use my FPL or their LD to make the call? |
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| said by zzricezz:I'm guessing that I will configure my SPA2102 to connect to Voxbeam servers and they will use my FPL or their LD to make the call? No, they are a "dumb" outbound-only service, but authenticate by IP address, so the SPA can send them the call directly.
Sign up for a Voxbeam account; you get $1 free test credit. On the Settings page, add your current public IP address. Assuming that line 1 of your SPA is set up for FPL, on the Line 1 tab, set Enable IP Dialing to yes. If ATA is behind a router, also set NAT Mapping Enable to yes. For initial testing, rather than mess with the dial plan, we'll use a speed dial. On the User 1 tab, set e.g. Speed Dial 2 to e.g. 18004377950@sbc.voxbeam.com
Then, pick up the phone and dial 2#, which should call 1-800-437-7950 via Voxbeam. If the called phone rings but you get no audio or one-way audio, post make/model of modem and router. |
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| Thanks again. I will give this a try once I get home. |
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I see that ip authentication also can be configured with a voip.ms sub_account. It has to be a sub_account that you have configured this way, not the main account. I tested it. This may also work with Stewart's SPA2012 two account technique if your ip address doesn't change.
EDIT: I tested this dial plan on my SPA3102 and it worked for outgoing calls with the voip.ms subaccount (setup for ip authentication) without voip.ms being registered on the SPA3102 adapter
(xx.<:@losangeles.voip.ms;usr=xxxxxx_H2;Nat=yes)
where xxxxxx_H2 is my voip.ms subaccount.
Revised EDIT: Tested with SPA1001. Different dial plan, see comments in later post. |
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brg
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
kudos:1 | reply to zzricezz
Every time someone mentions Flowroute I wander over to their website to check them out. All is perfect until I remember the $35 initial start-up and $20 minimum top-up. Not unreasonable at all, but for the fact that given my very low usage it would take me 8-10 years to use up that amount at less than a penny a minute.
Ditto Voxbeam, where the minimum is $50.  |
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said by hwittenb:EDIT2: Sorry, I tested the above on my SPA1001 and the firmware ignores the destination in the dial plan and uses what is configured in the proxy/password. My guess is it won't work on the SPA2012.
If you could arrange for the two accounts to have identical username and password then you could make it work, probably not possible in this case. I actually do this for one user of my system. I have arranged for her credentials on my Asterisk server to be identical to her VoIP.MS credentials.
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SB6120 - WRT610N - SPA2102 - Asterisk 1.8.9.0 on XenVZ Virtual Server
VoIP.MS - Voxbeam - Localphone - Numbergroup - IPKall - UKDDI - Testing Anveo |
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| said by grand total:If you could arrange for the two accounts to have identical username and password then you could make it work, probably not possible in this case. I actually do this for one user of my system. I have arranged for her credentials on my Asterisk server to be identical to her VoIP.MS credentials.
grand total, thanks for prodding me to do some more work.
You are right. I have seen other postings that said the same userid/password technique was true with a PAP2 or PAP2T but I never previously tried to test it. I did some additional testing and I think I figured out my problem. I recalled that sipbroker had dialplan instructions to direct calls to their server and they had a caveat that you had to hit # after you dialed to make it work. I tried that and it works with my SPA1001 when you do hit # at the end of dialing. Hit # after you dial and it goes to voip.ms, otherwise it goes to the proxy configured on the Line Tab.
It also seems that if you setup a voip.ms subaccount for ip authentication, voip.ms accepts calls without any additional authentication from the ip address. In other words, in my case with the SPA1001, I can send calls to voip.ms (with a subaccount setup for ip authentication) with the following dial plan if I hit # at the end of dialing:
(xx.<:@losangeles.voip.ms>)
I verified how it was working using a sip debug trace and Wireshark. |
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| My understanding is spa1001 is different from spa2012 so the above won't work for me? |
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gweidenh
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Houston, TX
kudos:1 | reply to brg
said by brg:Every time someone mentions Flowroute I wander over to their website to check them out. All is perfect until I remember the $35 initial start-up and $20 minimum top-up. Not unreasonable at all, but for the fact that given my very low usage it would take me 8-10 years to use up that amount at less than a penny a minute.
Ditto Voxbeam, where the minimum is $50.
Flowroute is definitely my next VoIP provider based on the current offerings out there.
I'll spend roughly $5/month with them based on current usage... so the initial $35 will last me ~7 months! |
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said by zzricezz:My understanding is spa1001 is different from spa2012 so the above won't work for me?
AFAIK there is no such thing as SPA2012. I assume that you mean SPA2102. That unit should work with Voxbeam (provided no NAT issue with router). |
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| reply to Stewart
I got it to dial out and my cellphone would ring but there is no audio.
Router is Asus wu-520gl with tomato 1.28
Using Rogers Motorola sb5100 modem |
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| Make sure that NAT Mapping Enable is set to yes for the line in question.
Try setting on SIP page:
Substitute VIA Addr: yes
STUN Enable: yes
STUN Server: stun.ekiga.net (or your choice of working STUN server)
If no luck, report whether signaling works correctly (SPA info page should show Connected when cell phone answered, cell phone should start counting time, hanging up phone should show disconnect on cell phone). Also, report whether audio works in either direction.
If possible, test with SPA connected directly to cable modem, to determine whether this is a NAT-related issue. You will need to power cycle the modem and SPA after connecting the SPA, and power cycle the modem again when you reconnect the router. |
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| Worked after those setting. So I have to use speed dial only? |
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| reply to brg
I checked the rate to call china and voxbeam is more than half the rate from flowroute. |
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said by zzricezz:Worked after those setting. So I have to use speed dial only?
No, you could add something like this to your dial plan, before the closing parenthesis:
|<00:0011101>xxxxxxxx.<:@sbc.voxbeam.com>
With the above, you would dial 00+countrycod+number+# to call with Voxbeam. A number beginning with other than 00 would go via FPL as usual.
If you want to use Standard instead of Premium, replace 0011101 with 0011103 .
Edit: if your existing dial plan has an unneeded entry starting with 00, you will need to delete it. If you have trouble, please post the dial plan, putting it in a code block. |
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1 edit | thanks Stewart, you have been awesome.
I just read Voxbeam credit expire after 1 year  .. My parents won't be able to use $50 worth of LD, that is such a waste. |
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| said by zzricezz:I just read Voxbeam credit expire after 1 year .. My parents won't be able to use $50 worth of LD, that is such a waste.
It doesn't have to be for "LD", they can use it for any calls! |
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