| Cable Installation in quebec Hey guys,
I was just wondering what the cable installation by videotron includes. I'll be hooking up cable internet with an iISP soon.
My situation, I live in a condo and got 3 coax wallplates, one in the living room and one in each room.
All the wallplates are fed to the bell satellite dish and all have receivers connected to them. In a perfect world, i'd like the modem to be in the living room. I wonder in this case if they will just split the signal to a wallplate or will have to pass a new cable from the videotron demarc (which is already there because my upstairs neighboor has videotron) all the way to the living room and I think a hole will need to be drilled. Do you think videotron does that?
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 alienzzzKill Bell
join:2011-02-17
Verdun, QC
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| I am in the exact same situation. I have no clue what the installation consists of but I will find out in about 1 week. I don't have any outlets in my apartment (just wallplates covering the holes where the cables go through, since I never used cable or satellite before).
I will ask the guy to put a cable outlet to both rooms so I can chose where i am going to install the modem. No idea if he will accept. |
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| I hope they do. I seriously don't want to change my TV setup. I don't really like Bell, but as far as TV goes, i'm totally happy. For me it's less expensive than videotron and the receivers are awesome compared to the videotron receiver interface. Back in the day I was all cable, so for sure it would work, but now i'm unsure. |
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alienzzzKill Bell
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| said by BaCkLaSH86:I hope they do. I seriously don't want to change my TV setup. I don't really like Bell, but as far as TV goes, i'm totally happy. For me it's less expensive than videotron and the receivers are awesome compared to the videotron receiver interface. Back in the day I was all cable, so for sure it would work, but now i'm unsure.
I'd never accept to pay those exorbitant fees for a TV that's loaded with commercials, but to each its own I guess. In this case you should probably switch to FibTV, you'd save some cash. They have been pressuring me for a week to try the Fib.
Except I don't want to give Bell any more money whatsoever. |
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 JCohenPremium
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| said by alienzzz:I'd never accept to pay those exorbitant fees for a TV that's loaded with commercials, but to each its own I guess. In this case you should probably switch to FibTV, you'd save some cash. They have been pressuring me for a week to try the Fib.
Except I don't want to give Bell any more money whatsoever.
If they didn't force their internet onto the customer as well it wouldn't be so bad. |
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alienzzzKill Bell
join:2011-02-17
Verdun, QC | That's my main beef with this kind of a business model. You want 1 simple thing, they force 3-4 onto you, that you don't need, want, care for or will ever use. Not gonna happen. |
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Can't get fibe in my area, its cable or plain old 15 year old DSL, maxed @ 6mbps, had enough of DSL lol |
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 hm
@videotron.ca | reply to BaCkLaSH86
said by BaCkLaSH86:Hey guys,
I was just wondering what the cable installation by videotron includes. I'll be hooking up cable internet with an iISP soon.
My situation, I live in a condo and got 3 coax wallplates, one in the living room and one in each room.
All the wallplates are fed to the bell satellite dish and all have receivers connected to them.
I'm no expert on Bell and Bell wiring (since no one should be using Bell), however, I seem to recall Bell uses RG59 cabling (or did).
Videotron uses RG-6. So Videotron will likely run a different wire.
This is something to ask your ISP who should be able to answer you. |
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JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 | reply to BaCkLaSH86
Call Videotron and ask what they would do in this situation, when you're on the phone don't tell them that you will be getting service from an indie ISP. |
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I talked to customer service, tech support, they don't know at all. I just made a call to one of the videotron contractors I've seen in the neighboorhood. He's going to come and check it out tommorrow morning. I'll let you guys know. |
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1 edit | reply to BaCkLaSH86
If I was you, I would install RG-6 cable myself in both locations (inside the walls) and make sure the other ends of the cables are outside. Else, expect 1 outlet and some stapled cables, but I might be wrong.
EDIT: Didn't realize you lived in a condo... this could be problematic indeed. |
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I had a videotron installation last year for cable phone and TGV internet (already had cable TV at that point). They had to drill a hole and they didn't charge me any extra. |
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I suppose there's no cable on outside walls of the building? They are all inside walls? In very few buildings (if you are lucky), the builder installed 2 cable feeds from the telecommunications room, one for cable tv and one for satellite. If it's the case, there's no problem, but if there's only one cable from downstair to the apartment, they won't be able to install the cable service. They can't pass both service in the same coaxial cable and there's no way they can run a second cable from the telecommunication room to your apartment! |
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1 edit | There is no telecomm room or lobby. The door leads directly to outside. I'm on the 1st floor, so if he's got no ladder, no problem 
There is cables outside, however all 3 cables are linked to a from the dish to the receivers. (all the coax has been passed through the walls during construction) Only way to pass a new wire is from outside, from what I can see. Triplexer wouldn't work neither. Since receivers power the dish and the living room PVR already has a diplexer since its a dual tuner PVR. It would just fry the cable modem. |
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 nitzguyPremium
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Sudbury, ON
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| said by BaCkLaSH86: There is no telecomm room or lobby. The door leads directly to outside. I'm on the 1st floor, so if he's got no ladder, no problem
There is cables outside, however all 3 cables are linked to a from the dish to the receivers. (all the coax has been passed through the walls during construction) Only way to pass a new wire is from outside, from what I can see. Triplexer wouldn't work neither. Since receivers power the dish and the living room PVR already has a diplexer since its a dual tuner PVR. It would just fry the cable modem.
Bad news for you my friend...you can't run satellite and cable onto the same physical wire....
So unless somehow they can drill a new wire into your condo unit...which may potentally be a violation of your condo rules...you'd have to choose...Bell satellite, or Cable Internet...there's no way around it...
I'm pretty sure that the cable installer will say something to the same effect when he's by there. Either get the wire from Videotron's equipment into your condo unit externally, or you'll have to dump the bell equipment and he'll reconnect...or unless somehow if these lines go somewhere else somehow that there's another line left over....but there's no way to run cable internet and satellite tv over the same physical wire. |
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 eboxnat
join:2011-05-06
Montreal, QC
kudos:3 | reply to alienzzz
said by alienzzz:I will ask the guy to put a cable outlet to both rooms so I can chose where i am going to install the modem. No idea if he will accept.
Unless you can bribe your tech they normally do not leave an open cable or splitter. With what I have gathered over the pas few months, it seems that it is possible to have access to standard cable tv with that free cable spot.
Best of luck to you!
Also, don't bother trying to rig up a splitter, unless its the right kind it will make your Internet go all crazy like. |
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hm
@videotron.ca | said by eboxnat:said by alienzzz:I will ask the guy to put a cable outlet to both rooms so I can chose where i am going to install the modem. No idea if he will accept.
Unless you can bribe your tech they normally do not leave an open cable or splitter. With what I have gathered over the pas few months, it seems that it is possible to have access to standard cable tv with that free cable spot. Best of luck to you! Also, don't bother trying to rig up a splitter, unless its the right kind it will make your Internet go all crazy like. Some will leave the "lock" unlocked. But they can get fired for this. I had a couple of techs do this when I was redoing my basement and asked them to leave the modem unlocked since I was in the middle of construction. They did it. One refused at another house.
Depends on the tech you get.
With Videotron, they allow one free tech visit per year to redo wiring or move wiring. So some techs will say call in to move your modem or splitter. With a reseller I doubt you have free anything.
But some will do it. For a reseller I doubt it. |
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eboxnat
join:2011-05-06
Montreal, QC
kudos:3 | reply to BaCkLaSH86
Well they cannot place a lock on a TPIA modem, that I know 100%.
From customer feed back I have noticed that Tech's dispatched to our TPIA cable clients are generally pretty cold, and refuse to even "install" the modem.
I am at an impasse here, its been years since I have had to deal with a VTL tech so I don't want to say bad things too quickly. |
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alienzzzKill Bell
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| How can they possibly "lock" the modem? Like with a lock and key? Which would mean I would not be able to move it??? That's weird.
Also don't they filter out the analogue channels if you subscribe to just the internet?
Anyway lots of useful info here... |
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1 edit | It's a device they put on the cable behind the modem that don't allow you to disconnect it (not the one you plug in a electric outlet). They are selling a tool on ebay to take that off the modem or try with youtube, they have some video where they show you how to get rid of it with a screwdriver.
But they don't put one on the internet modem, only on the phone one(mine doesn't have any on it.) |
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