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reply to Davesnothere

Re: Review and vary of 2011-703

note to moderators: I would appreciate if you could update the threat title from "Shaw's Review and vary of 2011-703" to

"Cable companies' Review and Vary of 2011-703"

(since there are now multiple R&V from different cable companies)

I was just going to post the rogers shit.Thought I had a post going for it alrady but I couldnt find it.

Anyway these tariffs bring a whole new aspect to the ballgame.Rogers wants service charges for each 100mb for upload and download so say double the fee.How low are these companies going to go?Every day its another tariff to try and gran more money from some obscure point in the rulling.It's down right degrading to me to be a Canadian and have companies stoop to this level.I cannot wait to win a lottery and get the hell out of this country that seems to be coming more and more communist by the day between the government and stupid decisions

Well seems I was reading the other rogers papers filed today.The R&V just showed up in my mail box.

Clusterfuck is to mellow a word for this.I see more hearings coming and a possible intervention from the government soon

so basically what they are saying here is:

Hey CRTC; The money we charge 3rd party internet providers is less than what Bell and Videotron charges. We want our costs to be higher so we can make more money as well and equaly over-charge as all the others. Otherwise it isn't fair.

Best regards,

Rogers VP of Regulatory

reply to jfmezei

Re: Cable companies' Review and Vary of 2011-703

reply to andyb

Re: Review and vary of 2011-703

This is just such good submission...

Imagine this, Rogers proactively making upgrades to its network so that end users do not feel any congestion and to remove the need for downstream throttling !

Imagine this, Rogers claiming it replaces its CMTS every 4 years. Yeah. sure. probably the result of a one time upgrade to support DOCSIS3.

Oh, and I like the one about Rogers *often* having to deal with a shortage of IPs funished by TPIA ISPs.

Imagine this, at the hearings last summer, the incumbers all said they don't do 95th percentile, but when it comes to spilling the beans on network management here, they admit to using it extensively.

Oh, and an interesting one at the very end: Rogers wants to maintain interim aggregated POI rates (the ones in effect last summer when Rogers refused new ISPs) until its R&V is done.

So, will Videotron now file one too ?

Start your filing against it JF.Dont forget to mention the 5,000 or so ip's rogers requires for each connection point that only holds 2,000.Or the fact brantford as far as I know has never replaced any CMTS's.And for sure mention the we dont do 95th but..

I'd so love to see Katz come out and just say fuk ya all.We got new rates.

$1,000 per gigE
$5,000 per 10 gig
All ISP's must supply 10gig minimum
$250 "per order" service charge
Monthly charges are 5 cents based on 95th

Applies to all ISP's

As an aside: CRTC is to issue decision on Fixed IP addresses for Cable between the 13th and 17th of february.

CISC Network Working Group – Provision of static Internet protocol for
third-party Internet access services
File number: 8638-C12-201015207
»www.crtc.gc.ca/partvii/eng/2010/···5207.htm

reply to jfmezei
Figures. I get the weekly CRTC release email and I missed the part about static IPs.

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reply to jfmezei

The videotron one (I just quickly skimmed over it) makes sense:

CRTC saw higher costs now and lower costs 10 years from now and averaged them to a single stable price for a period of 10 years.

Videotron argues that for the first half of the period, it will be subsidizing ISPs because they won't be paying the full amount of the current costs and make a profit on the last period where its costs will have gone below the CRTC's rates.

reply to jfmezei

Re: Cable companies' Review and Vary of 2011-703

reply to jfmezei
Sigh.

Videoturd wants $4480/Mbps. Wow. Way to pull numbers out of their ass.

Failing to understand what an opportunity they have right here right now to crush bell and earn 10x the return on the true value. Holy crap this is a sick market.