 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 Reviews:
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2 edits | Cable companies' Review and Vary of 2011-703 No, it isn't JF that is doing a review and vary of 2011-703, it is the benevolent Shaw.
Haven't read it yet.
quote: Dear Mr. Traversy: Re: Application to Review and Vary Certain Aspects of Telecom Regulatory Policy 2011-703; Billing practices for wholesale residential high-speed access services (TRP 2011-703) Pursuant to Section 62 of the Telecommunications Act and section 22 of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Rules of Practice and Procedure, Shaw Cablesystems G.P. (Shaw) herein files a Part 1 application to review and vary certain aspects of TRP 2011-703.
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 Reviews:
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| Re: Review and vary of 2011-703 quote: The foregoing adjustments will result in revised rates for Shaw's TPIA Services. Following the Commissions determination in this Application, Shaw will submit revised TPIA tariffs, with supporting costing studies, to reflect that determination.
Translation: Shaw promises to fudge numbers to support a favourable decision by the CRTC |
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 | Shaw wants the 2011-703 rates to be made interim as of today so that ISPs can be retroactively billed after the CRTC's decision on the matter. |
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 eksterBoo join:2010-07-16 Lachine, QC kudos:1 | Does Shaw even have any significant TPIA ISPs? I understand if Bell, Videotron or Rogers did it... they have a lot to win. But Shaw has no competition, so why are they doing it? |
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 | Cable companies tend to work together. Shaw may have filed it, but I suspect that it was done with the support of Videotron, Cogeco and Rogers. |
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 alienzzzKill Bell join:2011-02-17 Verdun, QC | Why not simply ask for capacity based billing? That would get them more cash. |
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 | In the case if Videotron and Shaw, I believe that the new cost structure has made TPIA much more interesting. So the cable companies aren't happy with it. |
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 jfmezeiPremium join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC kudos:22 | So, we got a Part 1 on impementation by CNOC, CNOC promised to also challenge rates in a separate proceeding, and now we have Shaw doing an R&V of the decision (instead of a Part 1 of its own tariffs)
The word "clusterfuck" comes to mind. |
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| reply to jfmezei Again, a company that can't see the forest for the trees. It's saddening. Videotron is gonna make so much money now that they are getting all of Bell's former DSL subscribers. Instead of being happy they are moaning. Bell in the meantime is happy that they are getting rid of them. It's unbelievable how unhealthy this market is. |
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 andybPremium join:2003-05-29 SW Ontario kudos:1 | reply to jfmezei I patented that word in another thread.Calling homeland security now |
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 grunze510 join:2009-02-14 Cote Saint-Luc, QC kudos:1 | reply to alienzzz So what does this mean for Electronicbox cable? Higher rates in a few months? |
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| reply to andyb I think Shaw would have been better off submitting new capacity based tariffs with supporting cost studies.
In this filing, they basically admitted that costing is fudged because cable companies expected a certain billing paradigm.
The one valid issue worthy of the R&V is the 10% bonus given to Mirko but not to cable. |
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| reply to grunze510 said by grunze510:So what does this mean for Electronicbox cable? Higher rates in a few months? Based solely on this filing and not something which Videotron might file, There is the 10% bonus which might be applied to DOCSIS-3 speeds. (or removed from Bell's FTTN speeds).
However, if Videotron decides to jump in and also wants its rates changed, then all bets are off. But as I read the R&V, it seems focused on Shaw FOR NOW. |
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 andybPremium join:2003-05-29 SW Ontario kudos:1 | reply to jfmezei The 10% they should not of got.Was a stupid decision based on fear of "they wont invest anymore" |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | reply to jfmezei said by jfmezei:So,
(1) we got a Part 1 on impementation by CNOC (2) CNOC promised to also challenge rates in a separate proceeding, and now we have (3) Shaw doing an R&V of the decision (instead of a Part 1 of its own tariffs)
The word "clusterfuck" comes to mind. Besides rodents trying to displace weather forecasters, is this not also the time of year that Vaxination likes to file major documents ?

Could some of the major players simply be smokescreening to distract you from doing so again, by trying filing to cover things you might have wanted to say ? (which CAN be OK, as long as SOMEBODY raises the issues)
CNOC comes to mind here.
Note that the CNOC has been quicker to the draw lately, and rumour was that they had planned to file something of their own around a year ago, something which might have either been deflected or made redundant by that famous/notorious petition which you submitted.
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | reply to jfmezei BTW, what character does Shaw use for abridgement, instead of Bell's beloved ##### strings ? |
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 andybPremium join:2003-05-29 SW Ontario kudos:1 | Same shit as all money grabbers use. the # |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | ....which in itself is weird, as one would expect that they would have chosen the $ sign.
That's why I rechristened B#ELL to B$ELL a while back.  |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium join:2006-08-30 HarperLand | reply to jfmezei This is never going to end. The only way the incumbents are going to be happy,is when all IISP's are gone.
BellSavvy will be the first to fall. |
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 DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages join:2009-06-15 START&Cogeco kudos:6 | The waters are sure Mirko, er, I mean murky, today ! |
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