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Cudni
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Anonymous 'intercept FBI and Scotland Yard phone call'

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»www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16875921
"..The call, said to have taken place last month, covers the tracking of Anonymous and similar groups"

Such fun

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said by Cudni:

The call, said to have taken place last month, covers the tracking of Anonymous and similar groups

Thanks for posting this. I d/l'd an mp3 of the call last night but haven't had the time to listen.

This popped up today.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3spwzUZfQ


edit: There's a pastebin with it too.
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I have a feeling the group will largely be disassembled this year one way or another. They are doing too much too quick and are attracting too much attention. They will slip & they will fall.

They are already starting to oust some of their own members for various reasons All it takes is one of those individuals to know anything about others. They will be all for identifying others to get reduced sentences and stuff.



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said by psafux:

I have a feeling the group will largely be disassembled this year one way or another. They are doing too much too quick and are attracting too much attention.

They are already starting to oust some of their own members for various reasons All it takes is one of those individuals to know anything about others. They will be all for identifying others to get reduced sentences and stuff.

If that were the case, it would have happened after the Paypal/MasterCard DoS.

Instead the feds picked up a few kids who used LOIC without any IP redirection.
Those kids didn't rat anyone out, because they didn't know anyone to rat out.

Anonymous isn't a fixed group. It's whoever stops in to play that day.
Most are temporary. They participate in an event or two, get bored and wander off.

The people who act as Anon talking heads are whoever just start talking about Anon.
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I understand and am aware of that.
At some point someone is going to know enough. Will happen this year.



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Anonymous = Earth Liberation Front, only with computers.



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Probably not until computer security really tightens down across the board, across all companies, countries and industries.

For example, you've got everyone and their brother installing conferencing equipment, but is there any comprehensive and cohesive security plan also being put into place with those installations?

You've got various industries and utilities computerizing monitoring and operations, but has anyone installed more than the mere password-access security software?

When my govt. agency computerized, my office IT person was someone who had been a non-tech supervisor who got sent off for a few weeks training. How many other businesses also just tap one of their employees to be their IT person merely because they know which button on the computer is the on/off one?

The fact that Anonymous can hack into the sites they have - the ones that the public would think would be secure - just illustrates how much low-hanging fruit there is to keep them active for a long time. And they don't need a central organization, just like-minded hackers who are willing to allow credit for the hack to be claimed by the group.
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said by psafux:

I have a feeling the group will largely be disassembled this year one way or another. They are doing too much too quick and are attracting too much attention. They will slip & they will fall.

People have been saying this for over a year. I file it under "wishful thinking".
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It will happen.



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Some previous posts and topics predicting it would happen, to show you why I dismiss it as wishful thinking:
»Say Bye Bye to Anonymous
»Re: F.B.I. executes 40 search warrants in quest for 'Anonymous'
»Re: Hacktivist group 'Anonymous' claims to have Stuxnet access
»Re: 'China-Based Hackers' Attack Morgan Stanley
»Re: Yesterday's LulzSec Rampage
»Re: How to deal with Anonymous and LulzSec-type Organizations?
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said by psafux:

It will happen.

Keep saying that. Eventually you'll be right

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said by mackey:

said by psafux:

It will happen.

Keep saying that. Eventually you'll be right

/M



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It seems the United States, nor any of the other westen powers can stop Anonymous. I would have thought by now they would have infiltrated them.

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give the US time, they are fighting the issue of operating predator drones over western allies and home soil is all.
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did they intercept the call, or did someone find a recording of it on some server?

or maybe it was leaked for some nefarious purpose.
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I agree they won't be stopped, but their activities will be publicized to provide fodder for SOPA/PIPA advocates to advance their legislation in the name of "national security".



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said by AVD:

did they intercept the call, or did someone find a recording of it on some server?

There are possible explanations for this story that don't require hacking into hopefully secured government sites.

According to the news I read they also released a copy of the email message announcing the conference call (with the dialin information). Instead of intercepting the phone call they may have simply dialed into the conference bridge as another participant.

As for how they got hold of that email in the first place, I would look at all those intended participants for whom the time of the conference call would have been outside of regular work hours. This wouldn't be the first time that someone who should know better forwarded confidential email to an unsecured personal email account (in this case to have the call details handy when dialing in from home).

Of course it is far more fun to speculate about a successful intrusion into a secured site.
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What they did was no more an intrusion than a stockbroker listening to an analyst earnings conference.

Getting the email with the conference call details -- that took some skullduggery, but certainly well within the capabilities of most script kiddies. A well-placed harpoon with a loaded .pdf... there you go.


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And tracing the call if they did dial into the bridge would be near impossible. Find a cheap seedy hotel that still takes cash, give a fake name, dial the 800 number and record. even if the FBI traced the stray listener they would only go back to the hotel with the phony name.
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said by fatness:

said by psafux:

I have a feeling the group will largely be disassembled this year one way or another. They are doing too much too quick and are attracting too much attention. They will slip & they will fall.

People have been saying this for over a year. I file it under "wishful thinking".

I wouldn't want them caught. For most part they what they are doing helps prick the public conscious a little bit to remind them not to just sit and eat all that is fed to them but to question if all is as presented. However, a simple rule of probability goes against anon the longer they are at it.

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