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Some things bill c-11 will not allow

Technically speaking, none of the Steam games will work either.

Steam has an offline mode thou

reply to andyb
Can somebody explain how it should be illegal to take a few off the shelf chips, create a printed circuit board for it, and sell it?

That's all the console modding industry does these days. Its up to the buyer to find and load these devices with the required code to successfully mod/jailbreak their console.

Its stupid that you're about to become a criminal because you created a piece of hardware that people might use to infringe copyright.
(nevermind the legitimate uses possible, its no different than iPhone jailbreaking)

Basically you have to worry about what people do with your hardware design after its sold, and that disgusts me to no end.

Aside from the fact that the government is about to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own hardware I paid good hard earned money for.

Basically because the United States says its bad, so the whole world must say its bad also. I'm surprised Canada's legal online pharmacies weren't terrorized by new U.S driven legislation yet.

Two words: Screw Them.

My first xbox had a drive that chewed up the discs.M$ wouldnt replace them.I now have 3 xbox's and all of them have firmware updates I do myself so I can use backup's.screw them

My child will eventually learn to play the game consoles, I dread that day...

I lent a game to a friend with a 4 year old and it came back pretty much ruined. I hate to see what my little one will do to them....

Not like you can take a ruined disk to any store and ask for another one. I guess this is how EBGames makes so much money selling disk insurance.... due to the fact that the industry does everything they can with TPM's and legal nonsense to forbid you from making copies.

And I remember when MS had a bad rash of disk chewing issues in the 360, and they told you to go pester the game's publisher, unless it was a game published by MS themselves. To make matters worse, most of the publishers just told you to bugger off, as in their opinion the disk was ruined by Microsoft's console, in other words, not their problem.

They love writing legal protection's FOR TPM's into law, yet completely ignore the fact that we need legal protections FROM TPM's too. Haha yeah right. I shall dream on.

reply to elwoodblues

reply to Jail4U
The biggest issue is you cant seem to go a year without hearing, is about some DRM becoming depreciated, and in almost all cases, they shut down the authentication servers along with it, effectively cutting you off to content you paid for. There's no legal protection for these people. Breaking said DRM is just as illegal even if its no longer supported.

In the case of DRM protected music they told you to burn it to a CD and re-rip it back to mp3's. (Yup, effectively breaking a TPM through a loophole is still considered breaking a TPM under US and proposed C-11 laws.)

This will get a whole lot worse in the coming years since the movie and gaming industry still think that TPM's are their bread and butter.
(if it truly were then why can you get *anything* you want completely unencumbered without any DRM through other more illicit means?)

Good article on piracy.From Forbes even lol.Love the "steam" idea

»www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/···ill-you/

reply to Farchord

I dont have that game.I have all valves games and they all work in offline mode.Obviously multiplayer wont work as steam thinks your "offline" The good thing about steam is if it ever decided to go the way of the dodo bird,it would be quick and simple to send out patches to allow you to play your games without steam

reply to andyb
The biggest issue with Steam, you can have thousands of dollars worth of games on it, yet one chargeback gets you cut off from them all instantly.

Sometimes chargebacks can happen on discretion of a bank without any customer involvement, or Valve can sometimes see weird things as chargebacks that weren't really chargebacks at all.

Many have been caught in this crossfire, and its usually taken them at least 2 weeks to get their games back (as 3 days seems minimum to even expect a support response), and if for some reason they cant charge the same charge to the same credit card again after restoring your account, then you lost access forever.

DRM is a farce that needs regulation or done away with. Right now these companies have free reign to do whatever they please... and you think buying physical copies makes you safe? Nope, not when they use Steamworks.

reply to andyb