| reply to jfmezei
Re: How to Amortize the $95 NGN Hookup Fee While the customer can walk away from IISP with no contract, they have no recourse for that big start up cost if the big risk of the service isn't what they claim to be. It is not like they have not been burnt by those so called "up-to" claims and tons of lies. |
|
 MacGyverDon't Waste Your EnergyPremium,ExMod 2003-05
join:2001-10-14
Canada
kudos:1
 ·TekSavvy DSL
| reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei:People with limited revenues get turned off by the need for a large capital outlay on the first month for all the various startup costs. It is easier for them to slowly pay it off every month. You guys need to quit being so cheap and put this into perspective. 25/7 is many times faster than 6/1 for about twice the price. Sounds like a bargain to me, especially considering the alternative I have is a second DSL dry loop running me at least $50 with the less than stellar Band C rate. With 25/7, I could go VOIP with ease, even multiple lines, shedding my POTS service and unlimited long distance. It would probably be cheaper than the POTS-LD-GAS6M triple play I have now! |
|
| VoIP is the WRONG reason to get 25/7 as it would only require 90-ish kilobits per second data rate. Even a puny 512kbps upstream speed can easily support 4 VoIP calls without pushing up latency. |
|
DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6
1 edit | reply to MacGyver
said by MacGyver:You guys need to quit being so cheap and put this into perspective....
I hope that that was not for ME - if it was, please review THIS recent post : »Re: How to Amortize the $95 NGN Hookup Fee , AND the one I made before it, both on page 2 of current thread.
In MY case it is not cheapness, instead poorness, as well as long-standing general hatred for the Bell company for multiple reasons over the years, and that 25/7 is not yet happening where I live (maybe never, as is small community, though they seem to have made 16/1 available last year to parts of it).
I have currently got a solid 30/2 Cogeco cable Internet feed, use various VoIP for most phone calls, supplemented occasionally by a PAYG Rogers cell, and get my TV thru the 'Net.
Short of returning to unreliable Bell lines on an Indie ISP, or cutting my cap so low on cable that I might as well cancel it completely, I have tweaked my costs about as far as is practical, given these particular circumstances.
The only improvement might be if an Indie ISP works out a partnership deal with Cogeco for us, but who knows whether/when THAT will happen ?
--
"It's COLD in here, Mister (Premier) McGuilty !   - PLEASE, could I have just a wee piece of COAL for the fire ?" |
|
|
|
 pstewartPremium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
kudos:1 | reply to Davesnothere
said by Davesnothere:said by pstewart:....the administrative overhead to stretch that fee out over time just isn't worth it.
So having said THAT, how do you feel about how TSI is handling the $50 hookup fee for Legacy GAS DSL ? That would be their business decision and I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to comment. |
|
jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22 Reviews:
·ELECTRONICBOX
1 edit | said by pstewart:That would be their business decision and I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to comment.
How many beers would it take before it would become appropriate for you to comment ?  |
|
pstewartPremium,VIP
join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
kudos:1 | said by jfmezei:said by pstewart:That would be their business decision and I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to comment.
How many beers would it take before it would become approriate for you to comment ? LOL - no comment on that comment  |
|
DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6 | said by pstewart:said by jfmezei:said by pstewart:That would be their business decision and I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to comment.
How many beers would it take before it would become approriate for you to comment ? LOL - no comment on that comment  will be my only comment for now. |
|
| reply to Davesnothere
said by Davesnothere:said by InvalidError:The initially proposed service charge for new VDSL2 installs was around $190 but after everybody complained, it got changed to a fixed activation fee regardless of whether it requires full installation or not. The tends to illustrate (or at least imply) that Bell DOES include wiggle-room in their submitted numbers, EVEN the #### ones, and now it is the time to find out just how much. Not sure where you see the wiggle room here, the "old" FTTN activation charge (~$190 only when needed) and the new one ( always $90) are two completely different billing models that reflect the same total cost that needs to be recovered and should be statistically equivalent... the lower price on "always $90" simply means that Bell expects to incur actual costs on about half the total number of orders.
You could say that people who do not require tech visit(s) are subsidizing those who do. |
|
DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
kudos:6 | said by InvalidError:Not sure where you see the wiggle room here, the "old" FTTN activation charge (~$190 only when needed) and the new one ( always $90) are two completely different billing models that reflect the same total cost that needs to be recovered and should be statistically equivalent... the lower price on "always $90" simply means that Bell expects to incur actual costs on about half the total number of orders.
You could say that people who do not require tech visit(s) are subsidizing those who do.
OK, I'll be more direct.
What I am (and many here are) saying is that we simply do not TRUST Bell's numbers (the few which they are willing to tell us).
Hence, possibly more wiggle room.
C'mon, Mirko - Prove Me Wrong ! (as in 'Make My Day !' ) |
|
