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Credentials evaluation

It depends on the country where your degree was conferred. And, it is pointless if the evaluation ignores cultural practices like India's "instruct to the test" (which makes degrees from most institutions there garbage to begin with) versus progression learning.
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reply to PToN
Are you saying you have an AS from some foreign institution and are now trying to complete your BS in the U.S.? Or vice-versa?

If you have an AS from an accredited college some or all of the credits should apply to your undergrad. Ideally your AS followed the lower division track of the BS requirements.

reply to PToN
I read this as PToN has allot of certificates and or experience and wants to skip classes based on his credentials to get credit towards completing the Bachelors degree.

My experience is that they tell you NO and your only option is to take the classes, if you really know the material its an easy "A". The main reason is how the colleges and university's are accredited

I have an AS from a US college, a few US certificates and 9 years of work experience on my field.

With the credentials evaluation, which are accredited institutions in the US, you can submit your application and accredited professionals will evaluate your experience and will provide accredited credits for that experience which can equate to a BS degree.

I dont know about you, but i rather spend $800 to try to do this, than taking classes, which are more time consuming and expensive.

I was just wondering if anyone has ever gone through the process, but it doesnt look it.

Thanks.

I did try this, a big fat NO was the out come

Its impossible to get 2 years of college credit based on work experience, at least from any national recognized accredited college.

Sounds like a scam to get your 800 dollars, its simple not possible to go AS -> BS without actually taking the classes

Edit: What I tried was working with the school I was attending, My AS and BS are from different schools. Neither had any program to translate certificates or experience into credits.

If what your suggesting is there is some place that takes your $$ and turns some of that into credits, then make sure where your applying for your BS to be completed at accepts these manufactured credits.

reply to PToN
I'm currently in a CIS100 class, basic Windows, Office 2010, and Internet. I have 15 years of IT experience, A+, Network+, various HP certs, Microsft MCP for NT and 2000. Basically when I submitted my stuff I was told it was too old and that they would need to discuss with my employers what I do and so on. The certs are old because once you get with a large corporation unless there is a business reason to get the current certs you don't, since certification and the real world are two different places. Plus a large corporation doesn't go with every version of Windows and when they move it isn't normally in a timely manner. At work we're moving from Windows XP. I'm deploying Windows 7 now, Vista was skipped entirely. When Windows 8 comes out I'll use it at home, but continue to deploy Windows 7.

Since work is the one who wants me to get the degree I'm just taking the classes. They are paying for them, I pay for the books. I think my brother put it best, "They want a two year degree over 15 years of experience".

Colleges just want your money. Figure out how much your time is worth and determine how much of your time you want to waste on this endeavor. In the end you're going to end up taking classes where you know more than the person they have teaching the class. You'll pick up a few new things, but for the most part you'll just be doing your time.
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In this thread I think some folks don't see the difference between what people do in their day-to-day tasks, which is where OTJ experience and certifications come in, versus what a degree teaches and is valued for.

Years of experience does not equate to a college education, regardless of how much you might think it should. This is why most colleges and universities don't grant credit for it.

Likewise, a freshly graduated job seeker (with no previous real-world experience) is qualified for no more than entry-level positions.

The two forces balance themselves out. IT used to be a career where you could get in and advance without any college at all. I won't say that is no longer the case, but it's becoming increasingly less so. In today's job market you really need all three: the sheepskin, at least some experience, and relevant certs.

reply to PToN
The last time I looked, there were several legitimate and fully-accredited institutions out there that did this, although it was usually some combination of credentials evaluation, credit by examination, and perhaps a relative handful of courses that had to be taken (online, maybe) in order to fill in any gaps. I've seen a list of these institutions somewhere, but one that immediately comes to mind is Excelsior College, so you might want to have a look at their website. If you scan for internet articles that mention Excelsior, you'll probably also find other institutions mentioned which follow pretty much the same process. You definitely DO want to avoid any unaccredited or randomly accredited place that just allows you to send in a check and maybe some minimal paperwork and then they send you a "diploma", because those places generally are scams.

You might find this helpful: »www.yelp.com/biz/excelsior-college-albany

Also this web site, although it may be a bit out of date now: »bain4weeks.com/

I looked up Excelsior ... wiki had this tid bit

"Excelsior College also offers Excelsior College Examinations (ECE) which are comparable to CLEP and DSST exams and are accepted as a source of credits by many (but not all) colleges in the United States."

Check out »www.rbs2.com/accred.htm.

If the school your going to get "credit from" isn't accredited by one on this list, forget it, the credits are non-transferable

reply to Wily_One

Well that's the thing. College is not there to teach how to configure a Windows 2008 domain controller. That kind of thing is transient knowledge and irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. That kind of knowledge is basically vocational training.

College teaches the fundamentals, the whys and wherefores, and the theories behind it. The "bigger picture" as it were. For example my degree is in MIS, which emphasizes the relation of IT to the business goals of the company. This required courses in general Business (accounting, finance, operations, management, etc.) as well as IT courses in programming (VB & Java), systems analysis, networking/telecommunications, database (Oracle), etc. Enough to expose the student to these areas of specialization so they are familiar with the topics and have a basis for an IT career in the context of the business needs and goals of the company.

At the end of the day, your upper level managers and C-level execs don't give a shit about what version of Windows you're running. They care about how IT is helping the business achieve its goals and make money. If your IT department is not positioned as a value-add, then you are nothing but overhead to the bean counters.

But I get where you're coming from. An undergrad degree, by itself, does not grant any special wisdom or expertise, especially when you get down to the nuts and bolts work. My point is it's not supposed to.

reply to PToN
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This is where EDU should be going at least for the tech field

reply to Wily_One
and what happens when help desk l1 needs a masters or PHD? NO we need some thing like the Germany duel education system.

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