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MissSherlock

join:2009-05-17
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Inexpensive Home Phone Plan

Hi Folks,

Looking for an inexpensive home phone service with long-distance.

I currently use Rogers for home phone and Teksavvy for internet.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, MS


andyb
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I use teksavvy for home phone.Long distance rates are 2.9 cents without any plan



dirtyjeffer
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reply to MissSherlock
why not bundle with either Rogers or Teksavvy?...both offer both services.



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reply to MissSherlock

said by MissSherlock:

Hi Folks,

Looking for an inexpensive home phone service with long-distance.

I currently use Rogers for home phone and Teksavvy for internet.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, MS

Are you technically inclined?

»voip.ms

I rarely spend $20 a month, with family and friends in Scotland, Brisbane, Sydney, and spread out all over Ontario, every conceivable feature then some, with 5 phone numbers and 1 toll-free number for my business.

My voip adaptor:

»www.canadacomputers.com/product_···d=014833

Whole thing took 15 minutes to install and configure.

You're already using voip. Tale control of it. Save your money.



Mike
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FiReSTaRT
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reply to dirtyjeffer
VoIP will save you a lot of cash as long as you've got a decent Internet connection and if you're with TSI, chances are you do. If you're not familiar with VoIP, Tek Talk is not a bad starter service.



lugnut

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I've been using a MagicJackPlus for the past two months along with a minimal Bell service for 911 emergency service.

The MagicJackPlus sells for about $60 USD and the service is $30 per year for unlimited North American Long Distance, $10 for a Canadian # for incoming and an additional 2.4 cents per minute for European LD prepaid. The MagicJackPlus plugs directly into your router and doesn't need a computer after you've set it up once.

Compared to what we were spending on Bell LD we're saving about $35 a month.

Magicjack quality compared to Bell is quite good. I'm on a 4 Mbit DSL profile. I've been told it's a little scratchy at the other end but overall quality is good.

I wouldn't use it as a total Bell replacement though, because it has locked up once already. Imagine if you had to deal with a lockup and reset your router during a 911 emergency!

Otherwise though, for casual regular long distance calling I'd have to say it's hard to beat.

I highly recommend it.



LazMan
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reply to MissSherlock
I ported my Roger's number over to FPL (FreePhoneLine) - it was about $75 up front, for the port, ATA activation, etc - but I haven't had a phonebill in the 4 or 5 months since, so am well to the good...

I used my own ATA, and just activated it on the FPL system - however, for $99, they'll sell you one preconfigured - if you're not comfortable with setting one up yourself...

I've been with VoIP.ms in the past, and still have a line with them, as well, but at the time, they couldn't port my number... FPL was the only one that could.

My wife and I mostly use our cell's - but wanted to keep the "landline" for several reasons - mainly to preserve the #, more then anything else... Service has been reliable, quality has been fine, and the LD is exceedingly cheap (they do free LD to most cities they service, and other places are in the $0.02/min range...) The $5 of LD credit I bought when I signed up is still going strong.


MichelR

join:2011-07-03
Ottawa, ON

reply to lugnut

said by lugnut :

I've been using a MagicJackPlus for the past two months along with a minimal Bell service for 911 emergency service.

The MagicJackPlus sells for about $60 USD and the service is $30 per year for unlimited North American Long Distance, $10 for a Canadian # for incoming and an additional 2.4 cents per minute for European LD prepaid. The MagicJackPlus plugs directly into your router and doesn't need a computer after you've set it up once.

Compared to what we were spending on Bell LD we're saving about $35 a month.

Magicjack quality compared to Bell is quite good. I'm on a 4 Mbit DSL profile. I've been told it's a little scratchy at the other end but overall quality is good.

I wouldn't use it as a total Bell replacement though, because it has locked up once already. Imagine if you had to deal with a lockup and reset your router during a 911 emergency!

Otherwise though, for casual regular long distance calling I'd have to say it's hard to beat.

I highly recommend it.

My nephew has that. When he phones me, my side of the conversation is about 80% "what? what did you say?" The one he uses has to be plugged into a computer's USB port though, so maybe it's an earlier model.

Personally I don't like the idea of the phone being dependent of the Internet service being up and running, though I can't say I've had much problems with the stability of my Internet service in the past 6 years (I'm with Rogers).


lugnut

@look.ca

Yeah, the original Majicjack required a computer to plug into. The Plus works directly off of a router. I've made literally a couple of hundred calls with it in the past 2 months and overall very few complaints about call quality. Your nephew may be using a cheap handset or be having network issues.



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said by lugnut :

Yeah, the original Majicjack required a computer to plug into. The Plus works directly off of a router.

Yup. A friend in Belleville - on Cogeco - has this setup, works like a charm and he swears by it. When I talk to him, sounds like POTS.

Mike
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lugnut

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One thing I have noticed is that the MagicJack is sensitive to your upstream bandwidth. Forget about seeding any torrents while you're making a call and on my piddly 4 Mbit DSL even heavy surfing during a conversation can seriously infringe on call quality.

Otherwise though, I'm a fairly light internet user and when we make a LD call I'm not usually using the net too heavily.


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reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

said by lugnut :

Yeah, the original Majicjack required a computer to plug into. The Plus works directly off of a router.

Yup. A friend in Belleville - on Cogeco - has this setup, works like a charm and he swears by it. When I talk to him, sounds like POTS.

Mike


I've used MJ for a couple of years now, before Canadian #'s were not being offered. Mine requires the computer to work (the old style). Has saved me a bundle on LD charges.

The new MJ still requires to be plugged into the computer, but only for the initial registration of the device. After that, the computer will no longer be necessary, and it can hang off the router.

If your internet connection has low ping and jitter, chances are good you'll get POTS quality.

Only thing I have noticed is there is a timeout of 90 minutes on a call. You cannot reconnect to that # for a certain time period (length of time unknown, but was ok 24 hours later). If you terminate the call @ 88 minutes, then redial, does it allow another 90 minutes? Don't know.

A caveat: there are a significant number of local exchanges that MJ does not connect to, as they cannot be "properly compensated" for the disconnect fee from the called number. See: »MagicJack


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reply to lugnut

said by lugnut :

One thing I have noticed is that the MagicJack is sensitive to your upstream bandwidth. Forget about seeding any torrents while you're making a call and on my piddly 4 Mbit DSL even heavy surfing during a conversation can seriously infringe on call quality.

This is what QoS is for. Simpe to set up, several how-to's on DSLr. I've never had a problem as you describe, not once.

Mike
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lugnut

@look.ca

said by dillyhammer:

said by lugnut :

One thing I have noticed is that the MagicJack is sensitive to your upstream bandwidth. Forget about seeding any torrents while you're making a call and on my piddly 4 Mbit DSL even heavy surfing during a conversation can seriously infringe on call quality.

This is what QoS is for. Simpe to set up, several how-to's on DSLr. I've never had a problem as you describe, not once.

Mike

Actually I just bought a new router two weeks ago. Had to go N Class because I'm fighting with my neighbours for a channel. Still waiting for the N cards for my laptop and netbook to go with it.

Anyway, I've been too preoccupied and lazy to set it up. How much bandwidth should I allocate to the MagickJack? With 640 K upstream I don't have a hell of a lot to play with.


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said by lugnut :

How much bandwidth should I allocate to the MagickJack? With 640 K upstream I don't have a hell of a lot to play with.

I believe MagicJack uses the G711 uLaw codec. I'm not 100% on that, so I'll leave that for you to determine. But if that's the case, that codec uses 80kb/s. That's the codec I use, and on my router, I have 100k up reserved/prioritized for voip via layer 7. That's the 80k plus a little for overhead. FWIW, I also have BT set to default as low priority - torrents take a back seat to all traffic. These settings have kept my voip crystal clear in both directions and me out of trouble.

If you search 'QoS' on these forums there are more precise and exhaustive guides.

Mike
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pnjunction
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reply to MissSherlock
I just switched to TekTalk Basic. It was pretty painless, just plugged the adapter into my network and the phone into the adapter on the day of the switch and it was good to go. Bit expensive to get started (especially since I took the easy way and paid teksavvy for voip adapter) but after 8 months or so the saving should still start adding up ($12/mo savings and ~$90 start-up cost). Bonus: not giving Bell money for that service anymore and it also has caller ID.

My current network setup doesn't have QoS but I'm the only user here and I always limit my trafffic from killing the connection anyways.


MissSherlock

join:2009-05-17
Canada

Good Morning All,

Many thanks for all the information.

Rogers' prices have gone up since last year even with the $10.00 discount for the first year. On the other hand Bell has dropped prices for their home phone but with many additional costs.

The discount for my Rogers home service will expire in the next few months. I was considering Teksavvy since I have their Extreme Internet.

I'm also looking for my Aunt who's a senior. Therefore, she wouldn't be able to handle the techy stuff.

Cheers, MS



FiReSTaRT
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TekTalk comes with an ATA (analogue telephone adapter) that plugs in ahead of your router and does its own QoS. If you have 7Mbps or less, it's the perfect tool for you.


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reply to MissSherlock

said by MissSherlock:

I'm also looking for my Aunt who's a senior. Therefore, she wouldn't be able to handle the techy stuff.

Also consider this fine Canadian VoIP provider who handles all the tech stuff on their end. Their owner (Trev) is well known to us in the VoIP forum.

»www.acrovoice.ca/
»www.acrovoice.ca/content/residential_service

(Acrovoice is NOT to be confused with Acanac)!


lugnut

@look.ca

reply to MissSherlock
Since I have yet to see a VOIP phone that doesn't fail unpredictably and require resetting the router or modem I'd have to say your aunt would be best off retaining a Bell POTS service. Sure Bell's the devil, but they do have the most reliable product.

Imagine this scenario.

Your aunt sits down to a lovely fish dinner, a bone catches in her throat, she picks up her VOIP phone to dial 911 and discovers no dial tone! While precious seconds are slipping away she's hunting around a mess of cables trying to figure out how to reset her router and meanwhile expires on top of the pile.

Like I said earlier, VOIP is great for saving on long distance, but it's no substitute for POTS when it comes to reliability and 911 service.

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