 Khishawn join:2012-02-05 Lagrangeville, NY | Regarding Servers and OOL Hi I am looking to set up a easy way to transfer a few documents back and forth between several locations and a "central" location. Basically I am looking to send daily reports but different business locations(no copyright infringement) and it would only be about a mb each day. Since the information is sensitive I would like to create a server out of a computer I have.
I did look at the FAQ and I just wanted to verify that I indeed can't access a computer on my network through FTP (I tried setting up a Server Client - Gene6). I tried different ports but it always times out.
It was also mentioned in the FAQ that if I subscribe to boost I would have access to some ports. So would that solve my problem?
Last, if there is a different/easier way to do this could someone please help me out?
I am sorry if these questions are redundant or idiotic but I am fairly new to this and am trying to learn about what I need to do to get the sort of setup I am looking for.
Thanks so much for any help Chris |
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 | said by Khishawn:Hi I am looking to set up a easy way to transfer a few documents back and forth between several locations and a "central" location. Basically I am looking to send daily reports but different business locations(no copyright infringement) and it would only be about a mb each day. Since the information is sensitive I would like to create a server out of a computer I have.
I did look at the FAQ and I just wanted to verify that I indeed can't access a computer on my network through FTP (I tried setting up a Server Client - Gene6). I tried different ports but it always times out.
It was also mentioned in the FAQ that if I subscribe to boost I would have access to some ports. So would that solve my problem?
Last, if there is a different/easier way to do this could someone please help me out?
I am sorry if these questions are redundant or idiotic but I am fairly new to this and am trying to learn about what I need to do to get the sort of setup I am looking for.
Thanks so much for any help Chris The default port for FTP (Port 21) as well as Secure FTP (Port 22) are not blocked by Cablevision/Optimum Online so that is not where your hangup is. Optimum Boost/Boost Plus as a residential customer will allow port 80 (Web/HTTP) and Port 25 (Outbound SMTP)
Do you have a router setup at the location where your "FTP Server" is running out of? If so did you forward the correct ports to the local IP of the server?
To be honest instead of going through all the server setup/leaving on is probably more of a risk than just using something like Dropbox (Installing the app on each PC with the same user account mirrors the files across all PCs) |
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 Khishawn join:2012-02-05 Lagrangeville, NY | Thanks for the quick reply!
I have the setup behind a router but when I first encountered this problem I directly connected my laptop to the modem and tried connecting to the server through an FTP client on the same computer(I dont know if this caused the problem).
Also, the main catch is I want the various locations to be limited to a subfolder and only my main computer to have access to everything. I dont think dropbox has that so I thought an FTP server was the best way to go. Is there any FTP server you recommend or any good guides you know of that explain all the steps (in case I missed something)?
I saw some people mentioned using Windows Home Server on this forum. Would that be an alternative or is it more like everyone having access to the same stuff (similar to dropbox)
Thanks again! |
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 Parth join:2010-08-16 Poughkeepsie, NY 1 edit | reply to Khishawn »filezilla-project.org/download.p···e=server
The easiest free solution. Of course, you need to forward the incoming FTP port in your router before anything will work. I suggest trying from another computer rather than the computer the server app is running on because loopback connections could be disabled.
EDIT: Also, Windows Home Server is not what you're looking for. It's a consumer product made for LAN media sharing, not over WAN. |
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 MxxCon join:1999-11-19 Brooklyn, NY | reply to Khishawn said by Khishawn:it would only be about a mb each day. Since the information is sensitive I would like to create a server out of a computer I have. if it's so small, why don't you use email and encryption? -- [Sig removed by Administrator: signature can not exceed 20GB] |
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 | reply to Khishawn You could also consider using dropbox |
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 | reply to Khishawn said by Khishawn:Hi I am looking to set up a easy way to transfer a few documents back and forth between several locations and a "central" location. Basically I am looking to send daily reports but different business locations(no copyright infringement) and it would only be about a mb each day. Since the information is sensitive I would like to create a server out of a computer I have.
I did look at the FAQ and I just wanted to verify that I indeed can't access a computer on my network through FTP (I tried setting up a Server Client - Gene6). I tried different ports but it always times out.
It was also mentioned in the FAQ that if I subscribe to boost I would have access to some ports. So would that solve my problem?
Last, if there is a different/easier way to do this could someone please help me out?
I am sorry if these questions are redundant or idiotic but I am fairly new to this and am trying to learn about what I need to do to get the sort of setup I am looking for.
Thanks so much for any help Chris If you are behind NAT at each location, FTP is not for you - your NAT/router would need an "ftp helper" proxy helper to make this work, as ftp negotiates through port 21/tcp (command channel) which OTHER TCP ports will be used for all data transfers (get/put/dir, anything), and which side opens the connection: active vs. passive ftp, for the avid googler in you.
Welcome to the world of Netflix/YouTube 100GB/month-consuming household, where a few MB here and there are just bottom-level noise:
CV doesn't give a damn about servers, as long as a.) you're not causing a great deal of bandwidth to be consumed (upstream or downstream) (check) b.) the content is not unlawful and/or attracts complaints (check) c.) that doesn't open a security hole that is being exploited by third parties that may a.) or b.) to become an issue.
You might want to consider sftp/scp (which uses ssh, port 22/tcp) or http/https as better, single-port protocols for your purpose. |
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 | reply to Khishawn Use ssh/sftp. |
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 Khishawn join:2012-02-05 Lagrangeville, NY | reply to cablewizzard So after a quick google search I looked up sftp and it seems Filezilla does indeed do that. So if I were to use that would any of you know of any complete guides on how to walk through this process or would be willing to help me along the way. So far from checking various sites they say buy a static IP from your provider but one mentioned that I could use my dynamic ip and just use my WAN or get something like no-ip.com and use the domain they give you (as they will continuously update your WAN).
When I was doing this with Gene6: I tried both my WAN and no-ip domain using ports 8021 and 21(suggested ones to try). And I created an account and tried to use an FTP on my computer but someone also mentioned that that could of been a problem with feedback. Im not sure if there were more steps I needed to take or if this was supposed to be a simple process.
For FileZilla Server I installed it and during install chose port 25 and then when I started it I got the following:
Connecting to server... Connected, waiting for authentication Logged on Retrieving settings, please wait... Done retrieving settings
And it took about 3 minutes to do that which seems fairly slow. From here what do I do.
Edit: After this I made a user on the FTP server and then tried logging in through FTP client but it times out. Thanks again for any help! |
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| reply to Khishawn You might find more help in another forum, since this is not related to OOL.
Have you tried accessing the FTP server through your LAN using the local IP address of the server? That way you could test the FTP setup without worrying about router or internet issues that may be causing problems. Once that works, then try to access it through the internet.
I like the easier way of just using email for files less than 10mb, and dropbox or yousendit for larger files. Opening ports and running an FTP server takes time and effort to keep it working and ensure appropriate security. -- NOTHING justifies terrorism. We don't negotiate with terrorists. Those that support terrorists are terrorists. |
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 | reply to adumbanon said by adumbanon :You could also consider using dropbox That's exactly what I was thinking. Get everyone else involved registered on Dropbox and "share" the approproiate folder with them.
Free, secure, easy, and accessible from anywhere. |
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