 KristopherI got a 4Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4 | reply to drew
Re: [game] Newbie F11 OK - Time to stick my neck out again to show how this game is really played. 
It's an F11, the choice is go No Lynch Day 1 and see what we get overnight (not my first choice), or lynch someone based on no evidence. Metagaming, I would bet one of the two new players is mafia, but we can't hang our hat on that, and I don't want to discourage either of them; so they're out. ekster voted me back from L-1, so I am leaning towards him being town. All I have is a dislike of Protus' drive by vote, and KrisN taking me to L-2. Savious would be who I'd go after if he weren't a newb, for taking me to L-1; but he gets a pass as it's his first game.
I'm fine with voting off KrisN or Protus. The only other thing I have to point out is lack of input from Arch or Ant, but they seem to both be busy IRL. Vote stays on KrisN for now.
Is the No Lynch a bad idea in a game this small? Can anyone give input to that? I know it's worthless in a C9, but is it still worthless in an F11?
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 ArchivisYour DaddyPremium
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Earth
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 ProtusMoseImmortal. Eternal.Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4 | reply to Kristopher
First time ever I've seen you pitch a No Lynch and then campaign against it. Then nitpicking about a "drive by". My day 1 vote almost always goes to you or ant.
You're acting kind of sketchy. |
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What are the L-X for? |
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Lachine, QC
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said by Kristopher:Is the No Lynch a bad idea in a game this small? Can anyone give input to that? I know it's worthless in a C9, but is it still worthless in an F11?
You're making me regret for unvoting you. 
No lynch is fine in a large/crazy game where we have zero idea what's going on on Day 1... but in a C9/F11, we know exactly what the game is... so we prod random people, then pick someone and move on. |
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KristopherI got a 4Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4 | reply to Archivis
I could be, but I'm not. 
I think my little paragraph sums up things from my point of view very well. I'm ignoring the newbs for a Day 1 lynch, putting exter in the good category for now since he backed me off L-1, and looking at Protus and KrisN for the way they voted. I have nothing on you or Ant because you have been inactive. I also have nothing on Jobbie thus far. And lastly, I ask for thoughts on No Lynch, as I forget whether or not it can give tactical advantage to town based on numbers. Pretty simple, really.
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eksterHi there.
join:2010-07-16
Lachine, QC
kudos:1 | reply to Savious6
L-X is how many more votes are needed to lynch. When it hits L-0, that player is lynched. |
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eksterHi there.
join:2010-07-16
Lachine, QC
kudos:1 | reply to Kristopher
exter? you phonetically spelling bastard! |
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KristopherI got a 4Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4 | reply to ekster
Then take me out for Day 1. I prefer modding these things to playing them anyway. Unless I'm mafia, and winning.
I like to move the game along, and it causes me to be focused upon. It's natural, cause if I were mafia I'd do what I could to focus attention on anyone active, since lynching inactives is considered bad juju. Since I don't have a power role, and could really care less, I prefere sticking my neck out to move this shit along. Day 1 in a C9, F11 should not last more than 8 RL hours. There's really nothing to be gained, unless someone makes an epic screw up post as mafia.
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KristopherI got a 4Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4 | reply to ProtusMose
Vote: Protus
Interesting reaction to my near baseless accusation.
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 drewAutomaticPremium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6 | reply to drew
Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 5
ProtusMose - 1 - Kristopher (L-4)
Kristopher - 2 - ProtusMose, Savious (L-3)
Savious - 2 - Adalicia, ekster (L-3)
ekster - 1 - Krisnatharok (L-4)
Players not voting: Antonica, Archivis, Jobbie
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ProtusMoseImmortal. Eternal.Premium
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Bellevue, NE
kudos:4 | reply to Kristopher
said by Kristopher:I ask for thoughts on No Lynch, as I forget whether or not it can give tactical advantage to town based on numbers. Pretty simple, really.
Gonna depend on the flavor, isn't it?
Possibilities after a day 1 nolynch.
1: 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
2 mafia, 6 townies (Why does the mafia need a roleblocker if no one in the town has any powers?
2: 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
2 Mafia, 6 townies (Doc makes a bad call), and cop gets a verdict
2 mafia, 7 townies (Doc makes a good call), and cop gets a verdict
2 Mafia, 6 townies (Doc makes a bad call), and cop gets blocked.
2 mafia, 7 townies (Doc makes a good call), and cop gets blocked
3: 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.
2 Mafia, 6 townies (Doc makes a bad call)
2 mafia, 7 townies (Doc makes a good call)
4: 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
2 Mafia, 6 townies (Cop gets a verdict)
2 mafia, 6 townies (Cop gets blocked)
The alternative is we lynch someone and there's a 78% chance we lynch town and you simply subtract each of the results above by 1 townie.
I lean towards a no-lynch.
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Savious initial thoughts on a random selection of players, no roles involved:
9 Players
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2 Mafia
7 townies
Day 1 Odds:
Probability of townie getting killed: 78%
Probability of mafia getting killed: 22%
Likely result: Townie Killed
6 Townie
2 Mafia
Night phase Result: Townie Killed
5 Townie
2 Mafia
Day 2 Odds:
Probability of a townie getting killed: 71%
Probability of a mafia getting killed: 29%
Likely Result: Townie Killed
4 Townie
2 Mafia
Night Phase: Townie Killed
3 Townie
2 Mafia
Day 3 Odds:
Probability of Townie getting killed: 60%
Probability of Mafia getting killed: 40%
Likely Resulet: Townie Killed
Game is over.
Conclusion, in advisable to random lynch on day 1. Risk too great of lynching innocent player. Any player pushing for lynch can be automatically suspected of ties to mafia, if cop role is activate, recommend immediate investigation.
New decision:
vote: no lynch
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| I wouldn't say I "get it" but, from an odds perspective with no known information at this point, its terrible to just lynch someone to "get them out of the way".
I think the game will officially start after second night phase.
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| it's ok, you'll learn.. mafia loves to get lynched day 1.
right modem? |
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| Sketchy response, bro. |
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ProtusMoseImmortal. Eternal.Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4 | reply to drew
Here we see the wild noob has locked horns with Antonica  . Antonica deftly dodges the attack, and rares back for a death blow. |
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bro? |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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Earth Orbit
kudos:7 | reply to ProtusMose
said by ProtusMose:Here we see the wild noob has locked horns with Antonica . Antonica deftly dodges the attack, and rares back for a death blow.
rears, bro, rears.
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