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drew
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drew to Jobbie

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Re: [game] Newbie F11

said by Jobbie:

there was no way to make Adalicia change his mind after all. So it was GG from there.

This is not true.

You HAVE to make an appeal to the other towns' logic.

You unvote, encourage others to do the same and then paint a clear picture of the events that transpired in the game. That's not to say that the other people have to listen, but when you step back, take emotions out of it, you'll hopefully have a clear picture. If you showed time stamps on the posts, the rushed post "SCum", etc. you'll have a compelling case.

It was a fantastic game, but Mose made a HUGE mistake here and would have had it not been a newbie game.

Prevailer
Freeze a poopy.
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Your Mom

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At least I had the sense to stay in character for my hammer vote.

"HAHA WE WIN GO MAFIA
vote kristopher!!!11!"

Would have been a little harder to back off from.

ekster
Hi there
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Sainte-Anne-De-Bellevue, QC

ekster to Chaplain

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said by Chaplain:

said by ekster:

Sorry guys.. was having lunch. A lot to reread.

And there you have it. If he was scum, he would have just hammered. Booya!

Heading to my meeting. I'll check by phone to see Protus hang.

Haha, love you too, Kris.

Jobbie
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said by drew:

said by Jobbie:

there was no way to make Adalicia change his mind after all. So it was GG from there.

This is not true.

You HAVE to make an appeal to the other towns' logic.

You unvote, encourage others to do the same and then paint a clear picture of the events that transpired in the game. That's not to say that the other people have to listen, but when you step back, take emotions out of it, you'll hopefully have a clear picture. If you showed time stamps on the posts, the rushed post "SCum", etc. you'll have a compelling case.

It was a fantastic game, but Mose made a HUGE mistake here and would have had it not been a newbie game.

You are totally right i guess i didn't say anything after it, thought it was self explained after KrisT had.

Learning a lot from you guys.

It was a great game.

Prevailer
Freeze a poopy.
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Your Mom

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What huge mistake? That was 0:14 away from being game.

Jobbie
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Mexico

Jobbie

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said by Prevailer:

What huge mistake? That was 0:14 away from being game.

Lol it was my second bait in the game.

Chaplain
So It Goes
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GG all. Thanks for modding drew, and get off your fucking high horse, you little dweeb. You an ignorant shit sometimes.

That said, everyone played well. I'll post more after I get back from my seminar.

Antonica
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join:2002-09-02

Antonica

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I hate all of you for beliving ekster. Mafia knew if there was a cop or not.

My reference to Jobbie was YES I PROTECTED HIM. The ONLY people who would have known that was MAFIA :P. THey knew I protected, so why not come out and "clear" who was protected and another known townie. Mafia fake cop claim 101. sigh. I even said it was too convientent... i was hoping someone would read my posts and go back to that and figure it out Sigh.

drew
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Port Orchard, WA

drew to Chaplain

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said by Chaplain:

Thanks for modding drew, and get off your fucking high horse, you little dweeb. You an ignorant shit sometimes.

I look forward to hearing why you didn't back off and go logic on everyone. That's usually your MO and after Savious wrecked the game for town, I really wanted them to win.

Antonica
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Antonica

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ignore spelling mistakes, in a hurry

drew
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said by Adalicia:

said by drew:

This is where I am really sad we don't have enough people for mentors.

That was a very, very clear mafia hammer attempt. You always, the moment you see a drive-by vote like that would end the game but didn't, want to unvote. Immediately. As in, don't post anything else just get that unvote post up as quick as possible.

Experience and trial and error leads to learning.

Sorry town. Bah...

I want to make sure you know you played really, really well, especially as a newbie.

I honestly probably would've lost as town, especially after the night before when I got a PM saying "No kill" from PM. That was an EXCELLENT move that they deserve kudos for.

ekster
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ekster to Antonica

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Actually, we didn't know a damn.

Jobbie didn't die not because you protected him... he didn't die because we sent a 'no kill' order.

We had no idea about a cop or a doc. I took a wild guess and claimed cop after no lynch, thinking there's going to be a cop and I'll just have to convince the rest that he's the scum and not me, or that there's a doc who will speak up and make it easy.... And your exchange with Kris made me think that you were the doc so we killed you the next night... making everything else fit in nicely.

Prevailer
Freeze a poopy.
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said by drew:

said by Adalicia:

said by drew:

This is where I am really sad we don't have enough people for mentors.

That was a very, very clear mafia hammer attempt. You always, the moment you see a drive-by vote like that would end the game but didn't, want to unvote. Immediately. As in, don't post anything else just get that unvote post up as quick as possible.

Experience and trial and error leads to learning.

Sorry town. Bah...

I want to make sure you know you played really, really well, especially as a newbie.

I honestly probably would've lost as town, especially after the night before when I got a PM saying "No kill" from PM. That was an EXCELLENT move that they deserve kudos for.

Con. I was very impressed. I've been playing for a year, and I fear you're way ahead of me already.

Jobbie
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Jobbie to ekster

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Well played indeed ekster.

Antonica
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Antonica to ekster

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ugh

drew
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drew

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By the way, even Arch didn't think ekster was scum. When, after PM tried to hammer, I PMed him asking him who was scum, he replied Ada and PM.

LOLOL

Antonica
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yeah. well played. And ada didn't play great, she had a lot of "well couldn't have been this" statements that are obviously completely wrong and absolutely can't be in a game like this.
Antonica

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i was the only one who thought he was full of it?

ekster
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My first rule of playing as scum: Play it like you're town.

The rest will sort itself out by the others.

Exodus
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Earth

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said by drew:

By the way, even Arch didn't think ekster was scum. When, after PM tried to hammer, I PMed him asking him who was scum, he replied Ada and PM.

LOLOL

I was 50/50 on the cop claim. I figured Ada wasn't being genuine after the logic was flowing his way, so it was him and PM.

Jobbie
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Jobbie to Antonica

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That is why you got silenced.

Antonica
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Antonica

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said by Jobbie:

That is why you got silenced.

it usually is you have no idea.

Adalicia
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said by Antonica:

yeah. well played. And ada didn't play great, she had a lot of "well couldn't have been this" statements that are obviously completely wrong and absolutely can't be in a game like this.

Learn and apply I guess is all I can say. I have a tendency to think in absolutes, probably because in addition to being an art nerd I was a math nerd too, just more to file away for next time and mistakes to not repeat.

Jim7
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Sheesh

The new guys did great imo.
I am impressed (and humbled).
I certainly could not have done as well.

PM and dat der Canada dude did a bang up job.

drew
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drew to Adalicia

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I disagree with Ant on the number of mistakes you made, logically. The end "mistake" isn't really your fault. It's an emotional part of the game and it's a technical play that you have to have knowledge of to play correctly.

I was watching Ada's posts and analyzing it... the only thing I can say is that he went after KrisT like a blood hound and didn't let up. That, from my cheap seats, was a mistake. That being said, first game? Mad props.

Antonica
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Antonica to Adalicia

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you'll make mistakes.. that ironically is the only absolute :P

even though it's not a crazy game... all games are the same that you can almost never be sure of anything.... there is logic to the game and it can be sorted out, but for the most part you really can't know for sure. Look at the mafia even... they didn't know if they had a doc or cop... they guessed.

Prevailer
Freeze a poopy.
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Your Mom

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Can we get a sex confirmation? I see "Alicia" as part of the name and a kitten and theink "she". Others are referring to "he".

Or we can refer to you as "it" in future games.

Antonica
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Antonica to drew

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it's not the number of mistakes he made, it's his thinking behind them. Like he even said, he thinks in absolutes, and you just simply can not do that.

Jobbie
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Congrats Ada for a great game it could have gone either way after Sav's fuck up.

That is why we newbs must unite!

Antonica
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Antonica

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mistakes will be made, its how you view the game that makes you a better player