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 rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
2 edits | NO Loyalty from Acanac, for 4-year customer ?! I don't know where to start. ?
Acanac-Sales doesn't know what acanac-support is doing, and acanac-support doesn't know what acanac-billing is doing, and acanac-billing doesn't know what acanac-info/accounting/voip/emergency is doing, and ..., get it ?! Is it really that bad. ? Unfortunately, it is. Have the tables been slowly turning where Bell and Rogers "support" is actually better than Acanac ?
Well, after 4 years with Acanac, dutifully letting them scavenge my VISA, for the FULL yearly contract(s) ?, every year, I gotta say a resounding YES, acanac is that bad these days. wow. Loyalty?, with acanac, does NOT exist? Their community Forums, sponsored by baseness such as only fan-bots of acanac are the only moderators that actually exist there ?! - yep Fergless. Hi Paul, how you doin' man ?
Now, 3-4 years ago you "could" actually call a real "Billing" person, but NO, these days, only "Sales" is open for "business" ? - Lol.
... got a Billing problem with acanac ? -sry -email only. ... got a Support problem with acanac ? -sry- -email only ... got a VOIP problem with acanac ? -sry- -email only. ... oh ya, and acanac is basically "closed-down" every weekend ? -Lol. it's shamefully pathetic.
But, is it really my fault? -Heck ya ! Soooo, Hey, buyer-beware, word-O-warning, -You will get what you pay for - with these guys. But that's all. Oh ya. | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 | Re: NO Loyalty from 4-year cust. of Acanac ?! Thank you for your opinion. If you worked in the construction department of a company do you know all the ins and outs of the the accounting department? If you are having a problem and I will have a look to see how we can help you. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON | ....and that is a lovely "auto-generated" reply my dear. | |  Samgee join:2010-08-02 canada kudos:2 Reviews:
·Acanac
| reply to rik5
Re: NO Loyalty from 4-year cust. of Acanac ?! said by rik5:....and that is a lovely "auto-generated" reply my dear. Seemed like a rather specific reply to be auto-generated...
Why not provide them with details around your issue so they can solve them for you and provide any compensation that may be due. After 4 years the service couldn't have been that bad.
I've only been with them for a year and I already feel like a more valuable customer to them than I ever did with Bell or Rogers. | | |
|  FerglessPremium join:2008-04-19 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | reply to rik5 rik5, what I think Fredsmith was implying is that not all ATA's can use 2 different VoIP #'s. -- Fergless - Acanac Inc. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
4 edits | You know very well ferg that is not the "full" story. I emphatically said, in my oroginal post, (on the acanac-"Community"-Forums"), that even if the 2nd VOIP didn't work on my SpeedTouch 780WL, I did NOT care, I did NOT want to lose my original(1st) VOIP line, no matter what, that I have had for 4 years with Acanac. Why did Acanac disconnect my 4 year old Voip line. ? I didn't change any settings on the 1st VOIP line to affect it. Instead, you removed my posts as the moderator ? Of course, as a dutifully paying customer for all these years, I was upset.
The fact that Acanac lost or disconnected my 4-year old VOIP line, (that I am STILL paying for), was inexcusable, that hurt me. You , and Acanac should darn well know better.
So, now that "neither" VOIP #1, or #2 has worked in over a week, with absolutely no response from emergency@acanac.com support@acanac.com billing@acanac.com where did you want me to turn ??? I finally went on Acanac "Community" Forum for help, and instead I ended up getting "banned" by you.
...I have to notify all family/friends/business associates now. My wife has friends and family in Washington, and Texas, ..., that she has to now change her numbers.
Acanac really dropped the ball this time. And yes, I understand you're all in that "let's try to put this fire out" mode ? Well, I think the fire has pretty-well burnt out by now, wouldn't you say?
In other words, Sir, you are NOT there just to wave your little "acanac" flag constantly at us "PAYING" Users'. I sincerely hope, these "bad-habits/behavioural and or otherwise...?" will be corrected by Acanac in the future. And yes, I choose my words carefully, and accurately here, AND, this is one forum YOU cannot "ban" me from.
 | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
4 edits | reply to Samgee Hi Samgee, But, as you said, you have so far only been with Acanac for one year. ? And you also understand that the nice cheap "promo"-yearly contract is gonna end after your year ? Remeber, I stayed with Acanac for 3 more years after the fact, through all up's and downs. Lol, I'm still there, putting up with this.
Trust me, this is not the first major issue that I have had with Acanac.
I left "Rogers" 4 years ago to join Acanac for 2 reasons, and 2 reason only. 1./ much cheaper rates (for the 1st year) at "that" time. ? 2./ I was hoping for better "ppl" service/support as well. (...uhh, and u can see how that ended as per my TOP post)
Generally, it hasn't been an easy ride, most especially with their almost non-existant voip-servce. But hey, as ferg will point out to you, (on their "Community" Forum): "...hey, you get waht you pay for..."
Needless to say, I am glad you're happy so far with Acanac. - Heck, I'm just happy when "any" user these days is happy with their ISP-provider, no matter who it is.
I obviously do not know how you're setup with them, but it's probably not like mine. Granted, everybody wants to be fairly "happy" as you have so far been with acanac. But, that is NOT my case at all anymore with them. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
3 edits | reply to rik5 I have tried the support email contacts with Acanac, for over a week now. I have also tried, in desperation, Acanacs "Community" Forum. ? and that didn't help.
So now, I am here, in my final depseration, with basically no where else to turn. I ma hoping beyond hope, that some kind, and knowledgeable VOIP expert here, can actually settle the matter of whether or not a SpeedTouch 780WL DSL/VOIP/ATA/Router can, in fact handle 2 voip lines. (technically speaking).
I will post every Acanac-ticket-number I have had with them over this, here, if that will help. ???
Needless to say, why did Acanac drop/disconnect/screw up my 4 year old VOIP number that I had with them for 4 years ? That, goes without saying. I'm sorry to re-iterate all this, but, now, my family (sons, daughter, Wife,...) - we all have to change our numbers to our expensive Cell. I never asked for that much out of Acanac -ever. I did expect though, that they would NOT "fuss"-up something that I have dutifully been paying them for, and have been paying for it, for the last 4 years.
Hence, why my originalt POST here in this thread, explains exactly the frustration, that myself and I'm very sure others have went through too. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
4 edits | reply to Lynn Well, Here you go Lynne I appreciate you trying to help. Lets see if Acanac can atleast "refund" me any and ALL monies "owed" at this point:
Here are the respective Ticket-ID numbers: ZQA-73270 (this the main important one now, with hopefully an immediate refund to me, from Acanac)
Prior to the above was these: (but it's too late now for this) QQM-76282 XZD-86719 AYX-15940
BTW, I can no longer even get access to these tickets, instead, all I get from Acanac Support is: "Error: Invalid email or ticket key" And no, I never got any "key" emailed to me .... ? Now, do you see what I mean ? what is that ?
Also, you are so very wrong, and with all due respect, if the construction company doesn't know all the in and outs of the accounting department, how would the construction worker be able to verify if in fact the customer even paid this?, or that? for a service , or part ? And that goes vica-verca too. In other words, the construction, can not just go ahead and "Renovate" the guys house, if the customer has not deposited any money into accounting , to begin that job. I know this, becuase I OWN my own Renovation company, and, previous to this, I have worked as a Diesel Mechanic, for a number of years, and I can tell you for a fact, that ALL departments had to talk to each other -to remain competitive, and more importantly, successful. In fact, I now rest my case with Acanac, referring to my top POST here, and Acanac's "one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing" approach to things ? I strongly suggest that Paul "learn" these important steps, and fix these misgivings of Acanac.
It just ends up puttin' the "User" (you know, the guy that PAYS ALL your salaries ???) in a potentially-HORRIBLE situation - "when" things do go wrong.
I understand "Bad" habits are hard to break. But you guys(/Acanac) better start somewhere soon.
Ok, well, thanks again Lynne, and if you require any other details,..., let me know.
Respectfully.
Rick. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
4 edits | reply to Fergless Ahhh, well, and don't worry, I didn't forget about you either Fergy, so now and "finally", let's see about the "real" answer, from the "real" world, shall we ? Hopefully, I'll find yout soon enough. »SpeedTouch 780WL and 2 VOIP lines ...And, just to be completely fair, lets also ask: »2 VOIP Lines with SpeedTouch 780WL ?
Might as well wait, and try to find this out, even though, a voip line 2 or not, would not have affected my 1st (original) Voip-line anyway. That one is on Acanac. Rick. | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rik5 said by rik5:....and that is a lovely "auto-generated" reply my dear. [/BQUOTE
Not auto-generated response at all  | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rik5
Re: NO Loyalty from Acanac, for 4-year customer ?! Ticket XZD-86719 It takes 24-48 hours to answer a ticket after they investigate and you did not wait that long before sending the ticket in again and again. You sent replies at these times without waiting for a response:
Feb 3- 12:25 pm Feb 3-12:41 pm-asked for update Feb 3- 2:02 pm-asked for someone to call Feb 3- 2:12 pm-asking for update Feb 3- 2:25 pm-repeated all info from first time which was 12:25 Feb 3- 2:26 pm-asking for update
You just kept sending in ticket after ticket instead of sending in ONE and waiting for them to respond. You asked for an update 13 minutes after you sent the ticket in. Everytime you send one in it puts your on the bottom of the pile as they are answered in order they come in. There is no way after 13 minutes they can solve your issue. There is other tickets besides your there and they are answered as I said in order they come in.
Ticket QQM-76282 I can't even find
Ticket AYX-15940 I can't find that one either.
They have probably closed those tickets as it is 1 ticket per issue and if they saw another ticket from you they would close the other ones and work on 1 ticket so they have all the answers in one place.
After reading all of this the only thing I can suggest to you is to STOP sending in replies so your ticket does not go to bottom of the pile and give them the 24-48 hours to respond to you. | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rik5 Oh and the reason you were barred from Acanac forum is because 5 times you called Fergie a name which I will not repeat. If that is done here the same thing will happen. There will be no name calling. I also checked your account and see : 2012-02-07 04:56:07(*****): wants to ZQA-73270
So they will be refunding you and canceling your account. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
| reply to Lynn Lynne, So why is it that you can't find the QQM one, and what about this one ->ZQA-73270 (this the main important one now, with hopefully an immediate refund to me, from Acanac)
Again, those are one's I want dealt with, and BTW those are the ones I sent to billing@acanac.com
But I know, let me guess, YOU have nothing to do with billing right. ?
The 2nd VOIP line that Acanac took $132.94 from my VISA on Jan 25, 2012 has NEVER worked. I want that cancelled, and I want an immediate Refund. I've also sent Acanac (to billing) a requiest to just cancel everything and refund me whatever balance is due, which was paid up 'till June, or thereabouts, this year.
I'm very curious, as to why, not just you, but when I called Sales, they also could not find my "Cancellation with Refund" tickets that I sent to billing@acanac.com ? I sent those by sending a "Cancellation and refund", including my recent Invoices to billing@acanac.com I guess it takes Billing up to 2 days to "read" them ? Or, maybe Billing does NOT allow access to those tickets ? Who knows, it's ALL purposely deceiving on Acanac's part.
Thats fine, I guess we'll just wait and see. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
| reply to Lynn You know it's interesting, how Acanac meticulously collects "meta-data" such as angry words, against their own "PAYING" users'. Either way, it's You, Fregass, and the rest of Acanac against me. It's all just bait n trap, hence why my TOP post in this thread, explainaing briefly about that forum.
From the looks of this Acanac Forum it's pretty easy to see, that many people just wish Acanac's "support", "billing",... would dig up their own "meta-data", and use it to actually FIX things, for their users.
But again, that's just my opinion now. | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rik5 The reason we can not find the other tickets is because you have asked to be cancelled so what they have done is close the other tickets and put all the information in one ticket so they can deal with this matter and have all the information in one place.
No they say 24-48 hours to answer because there is other tickets there besides yours and they answer them in order they come in. The ZQA-73270 ticket is the main one now and will be dealt with through that one. It is your cancellation ticket and refund ticket. I did check your account for you and there is notes on there that you want to cancel and for the refund so that tells me they are working on it now. Give them some time because you stated in the ticket you want the money to be put back on your credit card. They have to total up your refund, sent it to your credit card company and the credit card company puts it back on your card. This takes time so I am just asking you to be patient a little longer till they get chance to do all of this. | |  LynnPremium join:2011-08-11 Trenton, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rik5 said by rik5: You know it's interesting, how Acanac meticulously collects "meta-data" such as angry words, against their own "PAYING" users'. Either way, it's You, Fregass, and the rest of Acanac against me. It's all just bait n trap, hence why my TOP post in this thread, explainaing briefly about that forum.
From the looks of this Acanac Forum it's pretty easy to see, that many people just wish Acanac's "support", "billing",... would dig up their own "meta-data", and use it to actually FIX things, for their users.
But again, that's just my opinion now. Angry words? I have had no angry words towards you and I am sure Fergless has not either. Give him a chance to help you but you calling him that name over on the other forum is what got you barred. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON | reply to Lynn Thanks Lynne, for this update, because without it, I would never have known anything from "billing" as to what is presently happening. ? I just hope, that I get a "FULL" refund. | |  rik5 join:2008-05-25 Vanier, ON Reviews:
·Acanac
4 edits | reply to Fergless
Re: NO Loyalty from 4-year cust. of Acanac ?! said by Fergless:rik5, what I think Fredsmith was implying is that not all ATA's can use 2 different VoIP #'s. Well, as I suspected, my 780WL does, in fact, support "2" unique Voip lines/numbers, as long as, they are being serverd up from the same voip-SIP-url, which in my case was "voip5-3.acanac.com". And I explicity, asked about this very same problem in your acanac Forum, as well as previously to sales@acanac.com, support@acanac.com, and also to emergency@acanac.com,... Instead, Acanac threw one line onto "voip5-4.acanac.com" ?, and then simply lost/disconnected/cancelled/screwedup ..? I dunno, my "Main" 4-year-old Voip number. ?
Again. more, proof, of the "one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing" -with Acanac. You guys are gonna end up "3rd-Partying" yourselves to death -Lol. Ahh well, it's all "water under the bridge" now.
Proof: Thankyou to this; »2 VOIP Lines with SpeedTouch 780WL ?
So, "Fredsmith" was "wrong", and you know very well, instead fredsmith was trying get me to buy into some PBXer.org voip service crap ?
...Anyway, fine, so case is closed now. | |
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