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| 11 killed when truck collides with van in Ontario »www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20···-120206/
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At least 11 people are dead following a two-vehicle crash northeast of Stratford, Ont.
The Ontario Provincial Police says a panel truck and a passenger van collided around 4:30 p.m. Monday at Perth Road 107 and Line 47 in Hampstead, Perth County.
Witnesses said the southbound truck hit the side of the white passenger van, which may have been carrying a group of migrant workers. The van was propelled into the side of a nearby house.
The truck driver and 10 people in the van are reportedly among the victims. CTV Southwestern Ontario reports that at least two survivors were rushed to hospital, one of them by air ambulance.
The intersection and roads in the area will be closed for several hours as OPP investigate. Police are expected to release more details about the crash this evening.
Developing story…
Wow, that is awful.
That truck must have been smoking along |
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Carrying Place, ON
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| Today was not a good day for driving evidently. Someone got on the 401 eastbound going west today in Trenton, ended up running into someone head on... crazy.
»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st···ash.html |
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:12 | reply to thebaron
Lets hope it wasn't an overcrowded dodge caravan or something...
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join:2009-07-09
Waterloo, ON | reply to thebaron
They have a pic on the KW Record site (www.therecord.com) and the van was crushed... Sad to hear so many people killed in that accident. |
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Sounds too familar because it has happend before: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_in_Red_accident
EDIT - Looks like a broadside hit to the van, could be (and this is pure spectuation) that the van failed to stop at the intersection. |
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I was stuck in that mess today...set me back by 90 mins. We got detoured via Glen Miller Rd exit and then onto Hamilton Rd. |
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 GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:1 | reply to thebaron
We had an accident in Niagara Falls a couple of years ago where a car running from police the wrong way down the QEW and 420 plowed head-on into a van filled with Chinese tourists. I believe seven people were killed in that accident and debris was scattered more than a kilometer away. There was another van accident shortly before where a travel mug got caught under the brake pedal of a van heading to the Queenston-Lewiston Bridge, killing five people. They were a church group from the US. In both cases they were large E350 vans. I'm surprised I can't find any links to them anywhere.
What I will say is that if the driver of the truck that hit the van was also killed, that had to be one hell of an impact. Probably ~100KM/h each, meeting at a right angle. Yeeks. |
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According to the article in today's paper, the van ignored the stop sign. The truck had right away, but that driver is dead too.
»www.therecord.com/news/local/art···ty-crash
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Are these vans really that unsafe? Or is it because when in an accident there's 15 people that can be killed instead of 4 or 5 like in the average passenger vehicle?
First thing's first. Don't be running stop signs. |
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:1 | said by Kitlope:Are these vans really that unsafe? Or is it because when in an accident there's 15 people that can be killed instead of 4 or 5 like in the average passenger vehicle? A vehicle is only as safe as its driver. The 'problem' is that you can pack a lot of people into these things, but they are still smaller than many vehicles out there like transport trucks and buses, meaning they lose on the inertia test.
Though when that accident happened in the Falls and a Honda Civic smalled into it head-on at 150KM/h+ going the wrong way down the 420, the size of either vehicle didn't matter. They were both blown to smithereens. |
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Crash renews calls for ban on 15-passenger vans
BATHURST, N.B. — Two New Brunswick mothers whose sons were killed in a 15-passenger van crash say the collision Monday in Ontario that killed 11 people reinforces their belief that the vehicles are "death traps."
Isabelle Hains and Ana Acevedo issued a statement today saying 15-passenger vans offer no protection to passengers because they were not designed to carry people.
Seven members of the Bathurst High School boys basketball team and the wife of their coach were killed in January 2008 when their van collided with a transport truck on an icy New Brunswick highway.
New Brunswick, Quebec and Nova Scotia have since outlawed the use of the 15-passenger vans for public students.
The crash Monday near Hampstead, Ont., claimed the lives of 10 migrant workers and the driver of a flatbed truck that collided with the van.
Police say some of the victims have family in the area and have lived in Canada for many years, but others have relatives only in Peru.
»www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201202···-120207/
I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are they deathtraps because they are that unsafe or are they deathtraps because there's potentially 15 people to be killed? And no offense to the New Brunswick mothers... but do they really think their kids would still be alive if in any other vehicle other than a 15 passenger van? Icy roads, transport trucks and high speed front end collisions never have good results for ANY vehicle. And like Gone said, where was the driver in all this?
Personally I think banning the vans is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction. |
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| said by Kitlope: quote:
Crash renews calls for ban on 15-passenger vans
BATHURST, N.B. — Two New Brunswick mothers whose sons were killed in a 15-passenger van crash say the collision Monday in Ontario that killed 11 people reinforces their belief that the vehicles are "death traps."
Isabelle Hains and Ana Acevedo issued a statement today saying 15-passenger vans offer no protection to passengers because they were not designed to carry people.
Seven members of the Bathurst High School boys basketball team and the wife of their coach were killed in January 2008 when their van collided with a transport truck on an icy New Brunswick highway.
New Brunswick, Quebec and Nova Scotia have since outlawed the use of the 15-passenger vans for public students.
The crash Monday near Hampstead, Ont., claimed the lives of 10 migrant workers and the driver of a flatbed truck that collided with the van.
Police say some of the victims have family in the area and have lived in Canada for many years, but others have relatives only in Peru.
» www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201202···-120207/I'm not sure I'm understanding this. Are they deathtraps because they are that unsafe or are they deathtraps because there's potentially 15 people to be killed? And no offense to the New Brunswick mothers... but do they really think their kids would still be alive if in any other vehicle other than a 15 passenger van? Icy roads, transport trucks and high speed front end collisions never have good results for ANY vehicle. And like Gone said, where was the driver in all this? Personally I think banning the vans is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction. Typical knee jerk victim's mothers reaction based on nothing but emotion and no common sense. Happens all the time in all sorts of events. |
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| Ya I read that today.... and I'm sure Dalton will be chomping at the bit to make their wish a reality here in Ontario.
Also in the news is the most recent update from police saying the cause of the crash was driver error:
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The driver of a van involved in a crash that killed 11 people Monday in southwestern Ontario ran through a stop sign and did not have the proper driver's licence for the number of passengers he was carrying, the Ontario Provincial Police said Wednesday.
»www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/s···opp.html |
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| ministry of labour should be looking into this they deal alot tougher blow than the cops ever would |
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GonePremium
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Fort Erie, ON
kudos:1 | said by sandyhill :ministry of labour should be looking into this they deal alot tougher blow than the cops ever would Why? They were headed home. This wasn't a workplace accident. |
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| said by Gone:said by sandyhill :ministry of labour should be looking into this they deal alot tougher blow than the cops ever would Why? They were headed home. This wasn't a workplace accident. BEI Excavating here in the valley had an employee take a company truck after hours (without permission), party all night and had a head on collision on his way back to Arnprior with a van with 3 plumbers. All 3 plumbers are dead as with the BEI employee. BEI is being charged with FOUR workplace fatalities.
EDIT: Sorry, my numbers were wrong, there were two passengers in the van, and they are being charged with 3 workplace deaths. |
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London, ON | reply to Gone
said by Gone:Though when that accident happened in the Falls and a Honda Civic smalled into it head-on at 150KM/h+ going the wrong way down the 420, the size of either vehicle didn't matter. They were both blown to smithereens.
reminds me of this:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dI5ewOmHPQ
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GonePremium
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kudos:1 | reply to thebaron
said by thebaron:BEI Excavating here in the valley had an employee take a company truck after hours (without permission), party all night and had a head on collision on his way back to Arnprior with a van with 3 plumbers. All 3 plumbers are dead as with the BEI employee. BEI is being charged with FOUR workplace fatalities.
EDIT: Sorry, my numbers were wrong, there were two passengers in the van, and they are being charged with 3 workplace deaths. Right, but we've seen nothing to indicate that the farm owned the van. |
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| said by Gone:said by thebaron:BEI Excavating here in the valley had an employee take a company truck after hours (without permission), party all night and had a head on collision on his way back to Arnprior with a van with 3 plumbers. All 3 plumbers are dead as with the BEI employee. BEI is being charged with FOUR workplace fatalities.
EDIT: Sorry, my numbers were wrong, there were two passengers in the van, and they are being charged with 3 workplace deaths. Right, but we've seen nothing to indicate that the farm owned the van. That's true. But if it is a farm that often uses migrant workers, it may very well be theirs. There's no use speculating on it though as there's no way for us to know for sure. |
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GonePremium
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Fort Erie, ON
kudos:1 | reply to dirtyjeffer
When the accident happened in the falls, debris was found nearly a kilometre away. It was that bad.
The only good thing about the accident in that video, if there is one, is that you'd be dead instantly and most likely not experience any sort of agonizing pain. |
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