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[Panda Thing] Panderan DKs

LOLOL, that may be the coolest idea ever.

But considering as a Pandaren, you have to level to 10 then choose your faction, I can't see them letting us do this.
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reply to cymraeg
Pandas can NOT be Death Knights.

This was confirmed at Blizzcon. Lore has it that they where hidden during the events of the Lich King
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reply to cymraeg
they will retcon it just like they did for Worgen/Goblins. How is a worgen that has been locked behind a wall during all of WotLK supposed to be a DK when Arthas is dead by the time they become playable? I sure there is a answer for this but it is a retcon answer, same for how Pandas will be.

As for the faction thing, they can just allow you to chose when you leave the DK starting area..

I can't remember, did they make Worgen/Goblins able to be DK's at lunch of Cata or not until later?

reply to Skittles

How does it fit? DKs were raised by Arthas, he raised no worgens during WotLK. With the exception of the original DKs (Teron Gorefiend and his crew) all DKs were supposedly raised by Arthas. I know there is a retcon answer for this, just dont know what it is.

We need a ruling by Ada here.

reply to Skittles
Didn't Arthas basically go grave robbing and "rez" all the dead people from the races? If so that's likely how they have Goblin/Worgen DKs. There were free-roaming Worgen while Arthas (non-LK) was still alive weren't there? If so chances are they were buried on the other side of the wall? Whether they were inflicted at the time is another story and I don't know how they would cover that. As for Goblins I suspect they would use "steamwheedle" goblins and just call them "Bilgewater" goblins but I'm not really sure how they get around that.

Pandas on the other hand, were totally isolated I believe. Their dead would be isolated too. No chance for Arthas to rez them as DKs. Of course they may yet find some way to retcon it. I can't say I'd like it though and whatever they come up with is undoubtedly going to be so silly it won't be believable.

No, Arthas rezzed the dead of those that fell as his scourge army swept across the lands. He didnt grave rob. There were no free roaming worgen that could shape shift to humans (the playable race), they all lived in Gilneas behind a wall erected when Greymane ceaded from the alliance to keep the scourge out.

Agreed.Pandas are isolated as were worgens, so if they become playable as DKs then they will have to retcon an explanation for it.

Where is Ada he is so much better at this....

Ahhh OK, I knew he did that (raised as he killed) but I figured he or his Valkyries raised others as well.

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reply to JoelC707

The free roaming Worgen in Silverpine are not the same as the Worgen playable race. The playable race is expressly meant to be Gilneans as their starting zone and the graphic comic both outline their origin, which is completely different than the Worgens in Silverpine.

Arugal was once a member of the Kirin Tor,but when the scourge attacked Dalaran and lots of the wizards died and came back by the necromancers,he fled to SFK. As his people's numbers dwindled he was elected to summon extra dimensional creatures which were the Worgen. The worgen killed not only scourge but also Aurgul's people. Driven mad he retreated to SFK and adopted the worgen as his children-he still lives there with his pet Fenrus.

In WotLK Arthas will have discovered Aurgul's ability to summon worgen, he kills him and summons him back as an undead which explains his presence in Northrend and the worgen there.
There was a Horde quest to kill Aurgul in SFK BACK BEFORE WotLK so the Dark Lady could claim Silverpine Forest, but that quest is no longer available, if in cancelling the quest where the Horde kills him, then the above statement about Arthas killing him makes sense and explains the WotLK connection.

All that said, these are still not the creatures that become a playable race in Cata.

what about the worgen in Duskwood?

reply to cymraeg
To set it straight, most of Arthas' crew that went to the shores of Northrend were human paladins. Arthas himself was a paladin and was being groomed to lead them once he finished training and matured a little. When he started down the path to leadership he was all but in charge at Stratholm, thats where he started to go wrong with the whole "the end justifies the means" mentality. Many who fought under him there (us included) followed him north to Northrend. His father further funded his expedition with extra troops. Those troops were a mix of standard alliance military of all races. The lore has net been specific but the idea of the deathknight was that Arthas raised his elite and most loyal forces from the dead to fight beyond the dead which would simply be the fallen paladin's. But instead of being filled with the light they were filled with shadow and disease. Basically, your pally and DK are supposed to be opposite ends of the same spectrum.

One flaw in their lore/race DK match up is that at that time there were no Draenei. I mean there were in a sense but by the time the Draenei landed in Kalimdar, Arthas was already in the middle of his wasteful expedition to Iraq... I mean Northrend. So we really should not be seeing a spacegoat DK.

For the record, my DK is a human male (Darkpresence on Nordrassil).

This explains the worgen/goblin DK bit fairly well: »wow.joystiq.com/2010/11/07/know-···knights/

Relevant bits, for those who might be websensed:

This is the quest where you meet someone from your past, and are ordered to off them. It might be spoilerish, but it was last expansion, and if you haven't played a DK to that point at all, my apologies.
Worgen: "... We were both servants of Arugal back in Silverpine Forest. We put up with his merciless torture for ages. It was you who saved me on that fateful night when we escaped Shadowfang Keep."
Goblin: I lost count of the number of jobs you and I ran back in the day on Kezan. Then I picked up a real bad Kaja'Cola habit and you saved me! It was you who took me to Kalimdor to join the Steamwheedle Cartel.

Since the DK starting area takes place just prior to the events of Wrath of the Lich King, draenei and blood elf DKs are possibilities as well since they could easily have been in the Plaguelands at some point.

Pandaren, however, have been isolated on their island, except for those (currently, anyways - sure to change) few who got wanderlust. They're pretty good at hiding, since we haven't seen any yet. Most are on the floating turtle starting area still, training so that they may be prepared for surviving in Azeroth. Since they weren't wandering around the Plaguelands prior to Wrath, they can't be DKs.
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reply to cymraeg
There are Worgen in Northrend as well (BloodMoon Isle).Silverpine had ones that at certain times of the day they changed and also the ones in and around Darkshire were there but I never seen them change.

The Worgen and Goblins both "Fit". Pandas were around but Hidden.They never partook of the Scourge Battles and thus were Isolated from becoming Minions of Arthas and also avoided the Worgen curse.

Before people try pickin stuff apart they need to research a bit better.