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ThaiGuy

join:2008-05-10
Thailand

Australian 13xx numbers

Are any of you guys using a VoIP provider outside of Australia to call 1300 phone numbers down umner?

When dialed from within Australia, they cost between 35c to 45c, however, I used the rate calculator at Future-Nine for +6113451731 and it told me it was a Special Services number chargeable at a rate of $0.0173

I do not have an F9 account so cannot prove or disprove if that rate is achievable. Anyone care to let me know if there is a cheap way to call 13xx numbers through a VoIP provider?


thomas2011

@comcast.net

you be sure that either calls will not complete or that there is an error in the rate table.

chances are that when NItzan reads this post he will fix the rate table.


Mocha

join:2011-04-26
US
Reviews:
·voip.ms

reply to ThaiGuy
CallWithUs, which pretty much has some of the lowest rates to most destinations I've checked, shows the Australian Special Services number rate as $0.025/min for the lowest cost premium route (next one is 3.45c/min), so seems like the Future-Nine rate is even lower but not orders of magnitude less than other VoIP providers.


PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
Hutt River
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·callwithus
·Callcentric
·Vitelity VOIP
·Optimum Voice
·Gizmo5

reply to ThaiGuy
Voip.MS lists that generally as Australia Premium Services at 2.37 cents.

CallCentric lists that specific number at 2.31 cents.

Anveo lists Australia Premium (+6113) at 4.40 cents.

CallWithUs lists the specific number as Australia Special Services, at between 2.30 cents to 3.45 cents for Routes 1 through 4.

FlowRoute lists Australia Special Services (+6113) at 3.73 cents.

So FutureNine's rate posted rate may well be correct.


Stewart

join:2005-07-13
kudos:14

reply to ThaiGuy
I called from:

Anveo: rate .044, 30/6 billing, call went through (got 1400/2300 alarm handshake), billed $0.022 as expected.

Callcentric: rate .0231, 60/60 billing, worked as expected.

Voxbeam (Premium): rate .0202, 60/60 billing, call failed. SIP status was "500 Not Available pending rate increase".

Gmail: rate .02, 60/60 billing, worked as expected.


PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
Hutt River
kudos:12

It's 4 AM in Sydney.

Who is the poor guy you woke up twice?


Stewart

join:2005-07-13
kudos:14

said by PX Eliezer:

It's 4 AM in Sydney.

Who is the poor guy you woke up twice?

Well, it's an alarm receiver, and I didn't send anything, so nobody was disturbed. But hey, I could have sent a valid ContactID signal, and had I stumbled on a valid account code, the sirens would have awakened lots of people

jason_m

join:2010-01-09
Peabody, MA

reply to ThaiGuy
F9 Premium $0.025



ThaiGuy

join:2008-05-10
Thailand

reply to ThaiGuy
Thanks Guys - it all sounds too good to be true, but as Stewart has tested and verified the cost, I'm going to get setup and do some long term testing for myself.

The "500 Not Available pending rate increase" worries me a little as this happened to me with an Aussie based VoIP provider. I was paying 0.30c flat rate but after a couple of months they cut me off and advised they could not do it at that rate any more.



thomas2011

@comcast.net

reply to ThaiGuy
is it possible to get one of these premium rate numbers and receive income for all inbound calls?



ThaiGuy

join:2008-05-10
Thailand

LOL - the whole alarm monitoring industry in Australia is based on that very concept. Alarm & monitoring companies receive rebates from the telcos every time an alarm panel makes a call.

Not surprisingly, panels are programmed to make calls for every conceivable event and there is little incentive to go out and fix faulty systems that are generating false alarms.

Aussie consumers have been ripped off for years and I've been on a mission to try and find a solution. This current approach of using VoIP providers from outside the country is very promising


nitzan
Premium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
kudos:2

reply to ThaiGuy
We just pass along whatever rates our carriers give us (with our margin). It does sound weird that a 35-45c destination would go for 2-3c over VOIP. It's possible that this is only temporary and sometime down the line the Aussie carriers would catch on to what's happening and increase it. For now if it works- go ahead and use it.


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